11 Feb: Adv Marshall, Gauntlett, Buhr, Cilliers & van Zyl: Req Legal Service Quote & Info.

* Karen Marshall, Adv Jeremy Gauntlett, Adv Isabelle Buhr, Adv Jaap Cilliers, Adv Tokkie van Zyl, Magistrate Derek Torlage, Magistrate Guts Essel, Clive Johnstone, Ann Johnstone
* 11 Feb: Adv Marshall, Gauntlett, Buhr, Cilliers & van Zyl: Req Legal Service Quote & Info.
* Tygae: EoP Leg Sub / EoP ADR: EoP v Karen Marshall, LJ v Jeremy Gauntlett, LJ v CH Johnstone / EoP NWO SCO: EoP Axis MilNec Evac: EoP Axis: Lotto: EoP v WiP Law, EoP v WiP  Academia, EoP v WiP Media, EoP v WiP Charity, EoP v WiP Psych, EoP v WiP Religion / EoP v WiP Neg.

From: EoP MILED Clerk <eop.miled.clerk@webmail.co.za>
Date: 2018-02-11 23:01
Subject: Adv Marshall, Gauntlett, Buhr, Cilliers & van Zyl: Req Legal Service Quote & Info.
To: Karen Marshall <karmar@axxess.co.za>, Adv Jeremy Gauntlett <gauntlett@mweb.co.za>, Adv Isabelle Buhr <buhr@pixie.co.za>, Adv Jaap Cilliers SC <cilliersj@law.co.za>, Adv Tokkie van Zyl <tokkie@law.co.za>
Cc: Clive Johnstone <clann@telkomsa.net>, Ann Johnstone <annscg@telkomsa.net>

TO: Adv K Marshall, J Gauntlett; I Buhr, J Cilliers, T van Zyl:
Karen Marshall (karmar@axxess.co.za); Adv Jeremy Gauntlett (gauntlett@mweb.co.za); Adv Isabelle Buhr (buhr@pixie.co.za); Adv Jaap Cilliers SC (cilliersj@law.co.za); Adv Tokkie van Zyl (tokkie@law.co.za).

CC: Mag Derek Torlage & Guts Essel:
Magistrate Derek Torlage & Guts Essel via Clerk of Court.
Ref: 2578-14: LJ v FT Moe; 5408-15: LJ v CH Johnstone: Re 06 Oct 2016 [PDF]

CC: Clive & Ann Johnstone:
Clive Johnstone (clann@telkomsa.net); Ann Johnstone (annscg@telkomsa.net)

Adv Marshall, Gauntlett, Buhr, Cilliers & van Zyl:

Req Assistance / Standby Counsel Legal Service Quote and Info.

In response to Civil Court Cases: 2578-14: Lara Johnstone v Frode & Talitha Moe; and 5408-15: Lara Johnstone v Clive Johnstone; correspondence; Magistrates Torlage and Essel responded via the Clerk of the Court [PDF] ‘The case files and your requests were referred to Magistrate Essel and Torlage for consideration on which they made the following remarks: ‘You have to institute an action to sue for damages – that means issuing a summons. Magistrates are unfortunately not allowed to get involved in litigating parties and cannot advise.’

Issues Covered:
* Questions: Request for Legal Service Quote & Information.
* Definition of ‘Assistance of / Standby Counsel’.
* Clive Johnstone Preliminary Verbal authorization to Pay for Assistance of Counsel.
* If you – as an Advocate – require to be briefed by an Attorney.

Questions: Request for Legal Service Quote & Information:

[1] Are you available to provide Assistance of Standby / Advisory Counsel legal services?

[2] If so: What are your charges; per hour?

If you require to be briefed by an Attorney:

[3] Do you know any South African attorneys who are willing to ‘truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth’ legally represent an individual who is a member of an Ecology of Peace – EoP Axis Oath [eop-axis-oath.tygae.org.za] PDF aka Responsible Freedom [responsible-freedom.tygae.org.za] – culture?

[4] If I can not find any South African Attorneys willing to represent an EoP culture client; would you consent to being briefed directly by myself, the EoP client; if a Magistrate or Judge consents to you being briefed by me, the EoP client?

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Summary of Legal Services I Request your Help With to Resolve:

If you are available and willing, and Clive approves your costs; you will be helping me to finalize my assisted suicide arrangements. I shall draft the documents, so that they are factually correct. Prior to me – and if required Clive and Ann Johnstone – signing them, you will read them and then provide me with legal tactical constructive criticism editing suggestions. Once the draft documents are complete, I will sign as Pro Se Applicant, and you sign as Assistance of Standby / Advisory Counsel Legal Services Advisor. Among others I shall contact the following Agencies / Organizations:

American Government via Embassy in Pretoria: To request (a) Former President George W Bush and/or Governor Gray Davis to confirm their ‘McVeigh faked execution’ statements; if so: (b) US Dept of Justice and/or former DoJ Prosecutor in the trial of Timothy McVeigh — Denver Oklahoma: Criminal Action No. 96-CR-68-M – Beth Wilkinson; whether they (a) want a new Trial for McVeigh; and if not whether they consent to Timothy McVeigh to travel to South Africa, meet my parents; resolve any unresolved issues between Timothy, Lara, Clive and Ann; so that Lara and Timothy can travel to Russia to physically spend two years together somewhere in a village in Siberia; before being allowed to die together by assisted suicide; and be buried together in an unmarked grave near Lake Baikal, in the Siberian wilderness.

Russian Government via Embassy in Pretoria: To request permission for Lara and Timothy to travel to Russia, for the purposes of assisted suicide in Siberia.

Dignitas in Switzerland: If no consent from Russia; assisted suicide application to Dignitas: www.dignitas.ch.

High Court Application: If all out of court alternative dispute resolution attempts fail to convince the individuals to make reasonable restitution for the financial damages costs of their mental disorder allegations; a high court application may be required.

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Definition of ‘Assistance of / Standby Counsel’:

Counsel: Pro Se, Representation, Assistance/Standby/Advisory, Hybrid:

Pro Se: You represent yourself without any counsel.

Representation of Counsel: Your or the court appoints lawyers as your primary strategic and tactical lawfare legal experts. Your lawyers listen to your statement of facts and interpretations and based thereupon they decide the winning strategy for the court proceedings. Your lawyer makes all statements on your behalf to the court, asks the witnesses questions; and you only speak to the court; when you are in the witness box.

Assistance of – Standby / Advisory – Counsel: Standby counsel or advisory counsel refers to a lawyer who assists a client who has invoked his right to self-representation. Put simply: You basically represent yourself – you make the final legal strategic or tactical lawfare decision – but your own appointed  or a court appointed Standby/Advisory Counsel lawyer, provides you with strategic and tactical lawfare legal procedure advice. You speak in court for yourself, ask the other party’s witnesses questions etc; and/or fill out the details of the contents of the legal applications. Your Standby Counsel helps you to formulate your questions, your strategy and makes sure that the documents you file – affidavits etc – are technically correct in accordance to court procedure requirements. They are like your legal secretary. Generally speaking people who ask for Standby Counsel are political activists; who make their own strategic and tactical advice decisions; but agree to Standby Counsel lawyers, to advice them on legal procedure issues: how to correctly file the required legal paperwork; so that the opposing parties lawyers can not ask the court for the case to be dismissed or thrown out of court on a legal technicality: ‘incorrectly formatted, filed, or signed ’ legal document. For example: In the recent US v Ammon Bundy criminal case in Oregon USA; many of the Bundy defendants waived their right to ‘Representation of Counsel’; but accepted ‘Standby Counsel’.[OPB: Ryan Asks to Dismiss Standby Counsel, dismiss charges [ archive.is/RGXIa]; KOIN: Judge OK’s Bundy Medenbach to be own lawyer [archive.is/vVyhe]. Scribd: Motion to allow Hybrid Counsel]; Federal Public Defender EDNC: Ellis & Winters LLP: Paul Sun Jr: Your Role as Standby Counsel [PDF]; NYU Law Review: The Role of Standby Counsel in Criminal Cases: In the Twilight Zone of the Criminal Justice System [PDF]. Standby Counsel understand that many times their clients primary goal is truthseeking or changing the law; citizen cooperative lawfare to help the courts to change the law and set better legal precedents; by educating the citizens about their particular issues in dispute. The primary focus is citizenship truthseeking; not resource thieving winning.

Hybrid Counsel: Hybrid Counsel is when a client and their lawyer switch between Assistance/Standby Counsel and Representation of Counsel. Sometimes you speak to the court about your case; and/or asks witnesses questions; and other times your lawyer speaks to the court; and/or asks witnesses questions.

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Clive Johnstone Preliminary Verbal authorization to Pay for Assistance of Counsel:

On 29 June 2017, Clive and Ann Johnstone verbally confirmed that they authorized me to contact Karen Marshall to enquire whether she would be willing to provide me with Assistance of Counsel legal services, and if so: what her hourly charges were.

On 29 June 2017, I emailed Clive and Ann Johnstone – Sent Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 12:06 AM; Subject: Draft Letters/Documents for your Considering and Editing Approval – to ask them to confirm in writing their verbal statements that they authorized me to contact Karen Marshall to enquire whether she would be willing to provide me with Assistance of Counsel legal services, and if so: what her hourly charges were. They have not yet confirmed their verbal statements in writing.

 

If you – as an Advocate – require to be briefed by an Attorney:

All South African attorneys and Advocates that I have dealt with – whether financed by Clive and Ann Johnstone; Andre Johnstone or South African taxpayers via Legal Aid SA in Criminal Courts, or ‘In Forma Pauperis’ applications to the Capetown High Court Registrar for civil matters – have refused to represent me in accordance with my Ecology of Peace Radical Honoursty ‘truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth’ Responsible Freedom [responsible-freedom.tygae.org.za] cultural values.

I have also previously submitted written requests to SA Law Societies and Bar Associations; to provide the names and contact details of any of their Law Society or Bar Association attorneys and/or Advocates who are willing to legally represent an individual in accordance with my Ecology of Peace Radical Honoursty ‘truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth’ Responsible Freedom cultural values; but have not received any response.

I am willing to again submit written requests to SA Law Societies to provide the names and contact details of any of their Law Society attorneys who are willing to legally represent an individual in accordance with my Ecology of Peace Radical Honoursty ‘truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth’ Responsible Freedom cultural values.

A copy of this correspondence shall be documented at EoP Legal Submissions [eop-leg-sub.tygae.org.za].

Respectfully,

Lara Johnstone, aka Andrea Muhrrteyn [EoP Oath PDF]
PO Box 5042, George East, 6539, RSA
GMC 4643-13 & 2578-14 Pro Se Applicant
Former MILED Clerk & Acting Clerk

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24 Comments

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      Pro Se: You represent yourself without any counsel.

      Representation of Counsel: You or the court appoints lawyers as your primary strategic and tactical lawfare legal experts. Your lawyers listen to your statement of facts and interpretations and based thereupon they decide the winning strategy for the court proceedings. Your lawyer makes all statements on your behalf to the court, asks the witnesses questions; and you only speak to the court; when you are in the witness box.

      Assistance of – Standby / Advisory – Counsel: Standby counsel or advisory counsel refers to a lawyer who assists a client who has invoked his right to self-representation. Put simply: You basically represent yourself – you make the final legal strategic or tactical lawfare decision – but your own appointed or a court appointed Standby/Advisory Counsel lawyer, provides you with strategic and tactical lawfare legal procedure advice. You speak in court for yourself, ask the other party’s witnesses questions etc; and/or fill out the details of the contents of the legal applications. Your Standby Counsel helps you to formulate your questions, your strategy and makes sure that the documents you file – affidavits etc – are technically correct in accordance to court procedure requirements. They are like your legal secretary. Generally speaking people who ask for Standby Counsel are political activists; who make their own strategic and tactical advice decisions; but agree to Standby Counsel lawyers, to advice them on legal procedure issues: how to correctly file the required legal paperwork; so that the opposing parties lawyers can not ask the court for the case to be dismissed or thrown out of court on a legal technicality: ‘incorrectly formatted, filed, or signed ’ legal document. For example: In the recent US v Ammon Bundy criminal case in Oregon USA; many of the Bundy defendants waived their right to ‘Representation of Counsel’; but accepted ‘Standby Counsel’.[OPB: Ryan Asks to Dismiss Standby Counsel, dismiss charges [ archive.is/RGXIa]; KOIN: Judge OK’s Bundy Medenbach to be own lawyer [archive.is/vVyhe]. Scribd: Motion to allow Hybrid Counsel]; Federal Public Defender EDNC: Ellis & Winters LLP: Paul Sun Jr: Your Role as Standby Counsel [PDF]; NYU Law Review: The Role of Standby Counsel in Criminal Cases: In the Twilight Zone of the Criminal Justice System [PDF]. Standby Counsel understand that many times their clients primary goal is truthseeking or changing the law; citizen cooperative lawfare to help the courts to change the law and set better legal precedents; by educating the citizens about their particular issues in dispute. The primary focus is citizenship truthseeking; not resource thieving winning.

      Hybrid Counsel: Hybrid Counsel is when a client and their lawyer switch between Assistance/Standby Counsel and Representation of Counsel. Sometimes you speak to the court about your case; and/or asks witnesses questions; and other times your lawyer speaks to the court; and/or asks witnesses questions.
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