15 Dec: EoP Re: OZ Conservative: Do women love the same way?

* Oz Conservative, Mark Richardson, Vera Mistral, Melbourne Traditionalists, Mark Concrieff, Scion Asset Mngmt, Michael Burry
* 15 Dec: EoP Re: OZ Conservative: Do women love the same way?
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From: EoP MILED Clerk <eop.miled.clerk@tygae.org.za>
* Date: 2018-12-15 19:55
Subject: EoP Re: OZ Conservative: Do women love the same way?
To: “Oz Conservative: Mark Richardson” <swerting@bigpond.com>
Cc: “Melbourne Traditionalists: Mark Concrieff” <uponhopeblog@gmail.com>, “Scion Asset Mngmt: Michael Burry” <info@scionasset.com>

TO: Oz Conservative: Mark Richardson (swerting@bigpond.com)
CC: Vera Mistral Contact Form; Melbourne Traditionalists: Mark Concrieff (uponhopeblog@gmail.com); Scion Asset Mngmt: Michael Burry (info@scionasset.com);
Re: Oz Conservative: Do women love the same way?

Mark Richardson:

EoP Re: OZ Conservative: Do women love the same way?

The criteria she is suggesting for selecting a man to commit to is based on how he makes her feel. It is not based on a love for something intrinsic to him as a man. Men don’t approach relationships the same way. A man needs to think that there is something good or beautiful in the woman he loves. He might even have the sense that he is able to perceive in her feminine beauty or goodness something transcendent and meaningful that inspires love. This is a powerfully masculine response to women that has inspired a great deal of art over the centuries. And it leads men to have a sense that their love for women is a finer quality in themselves. Little wonder then that a man will often focus on the better qualities of the woman he is with, suppressing and forgetting her flaws or the injuries he has received from her. In other words, men will often err toward idealising women in general and their wives in particular. – Oz Conservative: Do women love the same way?.

ESQ: Can we play it out? I’ll be my wife, Julie, and you be me. So does my ass look fat in this dress? BB: Yes, you look like a goddamn whale. ESQ: Well, I’d say, That’s rude; you don’t need to put it like that. BB: Rude? What in the fuck is rude? Is it rude or not rude that you ask me to bullshit about you when you’re trying to convince yourself that you don’t look fat? You’re more worried about it than I am in the first place. ESQ: Well, I don’t think it’s bullshit. BB: It’s bullshit! I think the question is bullshit. ESQ: The question is, I want to look good to my friends, I want people to think I’m attractive. So I want to wear a dress that’s flattering, so what’s wrong with asking which dress is more flattering to my ass? BB: Well, if you follow those dumbass fucking premises, there’s nothing wrong with it. The problem is with the dumbass premises. Of course you want people to think you look good. But looking good…I’d whole lot rather be with a goddamn gorilla that was capable of love than someone who’s hotter than hell. I’ve slept with a lot of women who looked like Playboy playmates, and they weren’t as much fun as women that weren’t as attractive but really liked to fuck and really loved me. – Esquire: The Most Honest Conversation in the World [SQ Copy].
» EoP Leg Sub: 27 May: FBI Gary Lorin: EoP RE: FBI Vault: Lolita pussy/penis cannon fodder Express Informant.

“I won’t get specific; nothing here has been specific till now. But I am going to ask something that I think is basic. The thing that stood out ‘you said people are going around saying ‘they are beautiful’ when you know they really are not. That’s not what its all about. People aren’t beautiful because of how they look and if you don’t understand that; you are not going to start solving any of these problems.” – Unknown 1st statement/question to Hubert Humphrey: UCLA Comm Studies: Hubert Humphrey at UCLA 25 Feb 1969 [~ 44:00]; via Timothy Truthseeker.

I met my wife on match.com. My profile said that I’m a medical student with only one eye an awkward social manner, and 145 thousand dollars in student loans. She wrote back: You’re just what I’ve been looking for! She meant honest. So let me be honest making money is not what I thought it would be. This business kills the part of life that is essential! The part, that has nothing to do with business. For the past two years, my insides have felt, like they’re eating themselves. All the people I respected, won’t talk to me anymore, except through lawyers. People want an authority to tell them how to value things, but they chose this authority not based on facts or results; they chose it because it seems authoritative. Or familiar! And I’m not, and never have been familiar. Guys I don’t know how to be sarcastic. I don’t know how to be funny. I don’t know how to work people. I just know how to read numbers. – The Big Short: Trailer: Burry: Met My Wife on Match.com: Burry: Just Know how to read numbers.
» EoP Leg Sub: 28 Sep: Syriana Dancers Everett & Brett Kavanaugh Scent of Salisbury Galileo Cold War.

Love is an abstract concept that can have different meanings for different people of the same sex, age and ideology in the same culture, and almost definitely has different meanings for people from different cultures.

Abstract terms refer to ideas or concepts; they have no physical referents.

[Stop right here and reread that definition. Many readers will find it both vague and boring. Even if you find it interesting, it may be hard to pin down the meaning. To make the meaning of this abstract language clearer, we need some examples.]

Examples of abstract terms include love, success, freedom, good, moral, democracy, and any -ism (chauvinism, Communism, feminism, racism, sexism). These terms are fairly common and familiar, and because we recognize them we may imagine that we understand them—but we really can’t, because the meanings won’t stay still.

Take love as an example. You’ve heard and used that word since you were three or four years old. Does it mean to you now what it meant to you when you were five? when you were ten? when you were fourteen (!)? I’m sure you’ll share my certainty that the word changes meaning when we marry, when we divorce, when we have children, when we look back at lost parents or spouses or children. The word stays the same, but the meaning keeps changing.

If I say, “love is good,” you’ll probably assume that you understand, and be inclined to agree with me. You may change your mind, though, if you realize I mean that “prostitution should be legalized” [heck, love is good!].

Concrete terms refer to objects or events that are available to the senses. [This is directly opposite to abstract terms, which name things that are not available to the senses.] Examples of concrete terms include spoon, table, velvet eye patch, nose ring, sinus mask, green, hot, walking. Because these terms refer to objects or events we can see or hear or feel or taste or smell, their meanings are pretty stable. If you ask me what I mean by the word spoon, I can pick up a spoon and show it to you. [I can’t pick up a freedom and show it to you, or point to a small democracy crawling along a window sill. I can measure sand and oxygen by weight and volume, but I can’t collect a pound of responsibility or a liter of moral outrage.]

While abstract terms like love change meaning with time and circumstances, concrete terms like spoon stay pretty much the same. Spoon and hot and puppy mean pretty much the same to you now as they did when you were four.
– Guide to Grammar: Abstract, Concrete, General and Specific Terms [SQ Copy].

Put differently, your hypothesis that all men of your age, in your culture, share the same meaning for the concept of ‘love’ could be a significant self deception.

EoP MILED Clerk honesty about objective [eop-rh-fr.tygae.org.za] and subjective [eop-rh-iqo.tygae.org.za] truth aka reality. A summary of the difference between an EoP and WiP Future can be found at EoP v WiP De-Industrialization and Depopulation [eop-v-wip-deindpopn.tygae.org.za]. The EoP communication policy – if you or your children have any questions – can be found at Eco / Ego Literacy [ego-eco-literacy.tygae.org.za].
» EoP Leg Sub: 07 Oct: EoP TRC Negotiations Informed Consent Courtesy Notice to Ashley Kavanaugh.

If the men in your culture value honesty – to self and others – you will be able to find a reasonably accurate definition of their concept of ‘love’; which will scientifically clarify for you whether you have a similar or very different meaning/s for the abstract concept of love.

If the women in your culture value honesty – to self and others – you will be able to find a reasonably accurate definition of their concept of ‘love’; which will scientifically clarify for you whether the men and women in your culture have a similar or very different meaning/s for the abstract concept of love.

Erich Fromm: Definition of Religion/Culture: Group-Shared System of Thought and Action that Offers the Individual a Frame of Orientation and an Object of Devotion:

“To clarify, “religion” as I use it here does not refer to a system that has necessarily to do with a concept of God or with idols or even to a system perceived as religion, but to any group-shared system of thought and action that offers the individual a frame of orientation and an object of devotion. Indeed, in this broad sense of the world no culture of the past or present, and it seems no culture in the future, can be considered as not having religion.

This definition does not tell us anything about its specific content. People may worship animals, trees, idols of gold or stone, an invisible god, a saintly person, or a diabolical leader; they may worship their ancestors, their nation, their class or party, money or success. Their religion may be conducive to the development of destructiveness or of love, of domination or of solidarity; it may further their power of reason or paralyze it.

.. A specific religion, provided it is effective in motivating conduct, is not a sum total of doctrines and beliefs; it is rooted in a specific character structure of the individual and, inasmuch as it is the religion of a group, in the social character. Thus, our religious attitude may be considered an aspect of our character structure, for we are what we are devoted to, and what we are devoted to is what motivates our conduct. Often however, individuals are not even aware of the real objects of their personal devotion and mistake their “official” beliefs for their real, though secret religion. If, for instance, a man worships power while professing a religion of love, the religion of power is his secret religion, while his so-called official religion, for example Christianity, is only an ideology.” – Erich Fromm, To Have or to Be, pp.135-136
» EoP Leg Sub: 15 Oct: Vox … Thinking in Public; 09 Dec: Liberty Blitzkreig: Media: Ecology of Peace or Masonic War is Peace Rules.

If your culture is a culture that values and rewards objective and subjective honesty; then the chances of individuals of all genders in your culture being honest and providing you and each other with honest answers to your quest to ascertain how men and women in your culture define ‘love’ won’t be too difficult.

Flattery: The First Principle of Occult Mind Control

Perhaps more important, there is one key principle of the psychology of mass mind control missing from the old model of authority embodied by the early Fathers of the Christian Church: they did not flatter and they did not come in disguise. The core of orthodox Christianity’s belief system was antioccult to the marrow: it was the bad news about human nature.

Since we choose to refuse to genuinely heal the rift between the two sides of our mentality by the tough means of repudiating our lying public persona and taking action on the understanding of our true self, we relinquish autonomy to those who make it appear that they can heal us at no great cost or trouble on our part. Never mind that “They” are also the ones who implanted the rift in the first place. The point is “We” have little or no power. We cannot act. We cannot invent. We cannot cure. We must wait and see what happens. We must see what They make happen.

The final coffin in the nail of our free will is the fact that we ourselves know in our heart of hearts that the above is false. That it is We the People who have the power and the responsibility and that we could crush Them tomorrow if we chose to. They are only an illusion, every bit as ephemeral as the patter of a carnival sideshow bunco artist beckoning to us from the other side of the hootchie-kootchie tent.

But if we overthrew them tomorrow we would have to write our own scripts. We would have to heal ourselves. We would have to admit the colossal waste and loss and destruction of the past years which our laziness and folly have made possible. We would have to experience the pain of being alive and responsible. We would have to start acting like men and women instead of as slaves and weaklings.

The Hermetic Academy is confident, and not without reason, that we will offer no substantial, meaningful resistance to their imperium. Why?

The foster mothers of the human race, at least in the West, are cows. Perhaps we’ve imbibed so much of their fluid that we have become cows, terrified of freedom and its responsibilities. Epistemologist Charles Fort once remarked, “I think we’re farmed.”

According to the secret tradition of the Hermetic Academy, the “tree” of the Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden of Eden was a psychedelic mushroom, stropharia cubensis.* These mushrooms grow only in cow dung.

Why then does he revere them? Because they flatter him. This is the first secret of mass mind control and can be observed as the foundation stone of virtually every false religion, party, cult, philosophy, system and training. How can modern man free himself when he is told that he is already a demi-god, that the problem lies only in finding a pure enough economic or political system worthy of his high-minded brilliance?

If we look closely we will see that this mind control principle is so basic and simple it is almost stupidly so, to the point that we marvel that anyone would be seduced by it. But it is all a matter of attention, as we saw in the parable of the mountebank and the clown. Arrogant hypno-patsies have been told by their masters that they are “Demi-gods” and demi-gods are never deceived or distracted. They’re too smart! And by their arrogant self-satisfaction they blind themselves to the simplicity of the device that ensnares them and that is when “the real sales pitch begins.”

What the Alchemical managers have bred over a millennia is a human race of the most wretched stupidity and ignorance unrivaled in thousands of years. These blind slaves are told they are “free” and “highly educated” even as they march behind signs that would cause any medieval peasant to run screaming away from them in panic-stricken terror. The symbols that modern man embraces with the naive trust of an infant would be tantamount to billboards reading, “This way to your death and enslavement,” to the understanding of a traditional peasant of antiquity.

Who is the modern man? The puppet-masters say he is the smartest, most advanced individual to ever strut the planet, the most relatively liberated being in history. But Louis-Ferdinand Celine said it well, “What does the modern public want? It wants to go down on its knees before money and before crap!”
– Michael Hoffman: Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare.
» IG: 16-07-30_hoffmanm-secsocpsywar-truthorcons

If your culture is a culture that values and rewards objective and subjective self deception and flattery sycophancy; then the chances of individuals of all genders in your culture being honest and providing you and each other with honest answers in your quest to ascertain how men and women in your culture define ‘love’ will be much more difficult.

Men have to lead in the sense of upholding a vision of the good that provides a stable framework of life for both men and women.  – Oz Conservative: Do women love the same way?

If Men of the world had a vision of providing a stable framework of life for both men and women:

Imagine: EoP TRC Peace Treaty at 1919 Versailles, 1945 Nuremberg:
Imagine if an EoP TRC Peace Treaty process had been implemented at Versailles, Nuremberg, Fall of the Berlin Wall: I imagine if the Versailles Treaty had been negotiated through an Ecology of Peace Truth and Reconciliation process, resulting in the implementation of an EoP international law social contract, Hitler would probably have been a happy little yeoman farmer in Austria or Germany, with Blondi and Eva, and nobody would have ever heard of him. Similarly Osama Bin Laden, Ramzi Yousef, Anders Breivik, Che Guevara, Joseph Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Polpot, Charles Taylor, Fidel Castro, etc, etc, would probably have been happy little yeoman organic farmers in their villages in the Middle East, Asia or Latin America, etc. There would currently be less than a billion people on planet earth, all of them – of all races, genders and religions, entitled to their responsible freedom property ration of 7.2 gha at a population of 1 billion, or 72 gha at population of 100 million as per eco-footprint carrying capacity EoP Intnl law – living in responsible freedom villages and nations, as Aryans lived for thousands of years on the Steppe, Bushmen lived in the Kalahari, Chuckchi’s lived in Chukotka, etc.
» EoP Leg Sub: EoP TRC Draft Statements.

Gimbutas noted the stable – no population & economic consumption growth – Steppe Aryan population: that a low tech agrarian village founded in 8000 BC was still a low tech agrarian village in 4000BC. This also allowed them to sustainably farm the land, and live in peace. Nobody was ripping off others to feed the kids he sired, or provide for his tits and ass slut wife’s consumption demands. Hence the peace of yeoman low tech agrarian farmers who are all betas. – EoP Amended: SQSwans: Day Brown: Proto Indo-European.
» EoP Leg Sub: 29 May: EoP Re: OD: From #metoo to a global convention on sexual harassment at work.

Ecology of Peace culture’s objective reality frame of orientation for a stable sustainable global legal framework for humans and other species:

EoP RH FR: EoP Radical Honoursty Functional Interpretation of Objective Reality Transforming the World Constraints for Sincere Peaceniks / Honourable Warriors:

Ecology of Peace Radical Honoursty Factual Reality [eop-rh-fr.tygae.org.za] and EoP Scientific and Cultural Law [eop-scicultlaw.tygae.org.za] are EoP culture’s functional group shared system of thought and action frame of orientation and object of inter-species relating devotion interpretation of reality for individuals whose object of devotion/values include: (i) honest – race, religious, gender and cultural – relationships; (ii) an ecological carrying capacity based perspective of observable factual social contract reality; and (iii) non-violent cooperative root cause problem solving.

[1] Earth is not flat. [2] Resources are finite. [3] When humans breed or consume above ecological carrying capacity limits, it results in ecological overshoot, resource depletion and resource conflict. [4] Some of the socio-cultural and psycho-political consequences of overpopulation & consumption collision with declining resources include: poverty, slavery, unemployment, food shortages, food inflation, cost of living increases, urban sprawl, traffic jams, toxic waste, pollution, peak oil, peak water, peak food, peak population, species extinction, loss of biodiversity, peak resources, racial, religious, class, gender resource war conflict, militarized police, psycho-social and cultural conformity pressures on free speech, etc; inter-cultural conflict; legal, political and corporate corruption, etc. [5] The root cause of humans breeding and consuming above ecological carrying capacity limits is the ‘right to breed and consume with total disregard for ecological carrying capacity limits’ clauses of the Masonic War is Peace international law social contract. [6] If individuals, families, tribes, races, religions, political parties, corporations and/or nations sincerely – aka egological literacy [ego-eco-literacy.tygae.org.za] – want to (a) sustainably protect natural resources for future generations; and/or (b) reduce class, racial and/or religious local, national and international resource war conflict; and/or (c) enable honourable, transparent and humane international cooperative de-industrialization and depopulation of the planet to return to living in accordance to ecological carrying capacity limits; they should (d) cooperate [eop-cooperator.tygae.org.za] to nullify the ‘right to breed and consume with total disregard for ecological carrying capacity limits’ clauses and replace them with Ecology of Peace Scientific and Cultural law [eop-scicultlaw.tygae.org.za] clauses that restricts all the worlds citizens to breed and consume below ecological carrying capacity limits; or be humanely eliminated from the planetary genepool.
» EoP Leg Sub: 07 Mar: CRL Rights Comm: Re: EoP TRC to End Abel & Kane Cold War ideas for regulating churches: Draft: Referral to Mediation: State of EoP TRC to End the Kane & Abel Cold War Negotiations; Statement of Claim: State of EoP TRC to End the Kane & Abel Cold War Negotiations; 30 Apr: Daniel Richman: EoP Re: Comey Ethics US-RU Moral Equivalence; DJ Trump Fair Arbiter.


The RAF / Baader Meinhof used to say that sexual liberation is part of the anti-imperialist struggle.

Sexual liberation is part of anti-imperialism; but I would probably disagree with the RAF’s definition of sexual liberation, if my interpretation of their concept of sexual liberation is accurate.

Scientific sexual liberation – scientific: breeding and consuming below ecological carrying capacity limits  – is part of the anti-imperialist struggle.

Cultural sexual liberation – cultural: naturalist naked, tits and ass slut naked, naturalist naked under a burqa, tits and ass slut naked under a burqa, and so on sexual liberation values, are cultural – are not part of the objective anti-imperialist struggle, but they could be subjectively part of some women’s inner-ego dictator anti-imperialist struggle.

If or when a woman who has the freedom to choose to be naturalist naked woman considers herself ‘sexually suppressed’ then she can adopt a different ‘tits and ass slut naked’ or ‘burqa naturalist’ or ‘tits and ass slut under a burqa’ or whatever cultural value she subjective considers could be more sexually liberated; to ascertain whether she feels more liberated or not. She can experiment with them all, and then choose which one suits her best.

She can do so in an EoP SciCultLaw social contract society; but not in a WiP social contract society; where most women are considered to be nothing more than the WiP human factory farm brood sows, or trophy wives; for fuck honour men addicted to breeding fuck honour unwanted and hated children; or strutting around the world stage. Men on the other hand are trapped in WiP social contract being women’s security cheap labour, or sperm donors or walking wallets.

If a wo/man wants to be the brood sow/sperm donor for a fuck honour wo/man, in an EoP SciCult law society, they can breed one child, no more. S/he cannot demand to live a consumption lifestyle above carrying capacity limits. If she can find a man who wants to fuck her; and they manage their property rations in accordance to Masanobu Fukuoka: One Straw Revolution lazy do nothing natural farming practices; meaning they have plenty of leisure time; she can fuck – or eat, or sleep, or read, or ride horse – all of her leisure time day. If she cannot she can find one she can pay to fuck her all day. If she wants to find a man to make love to, they can make love all day; and so on. She can overdose on fucking, or reading; or not.
» EoP Leg Sub: 16 Jul: Belarus Embassy Request for Info tel call: RE: IAEA Draft: EoP Denuke Definition; 25 Jul: EoP Re: Finding Sarah: Suze Orman, Oprah Winfrey & Dr. Phil; 13 Dec: EoP MilStrat – objective abolitionist v subjective slave – reality SexEd.

A copy of this correspondence is documented at EoP Legal Submissions [eop-leg-sub.tygae.org.za].


Lara Johnson, aka Andrea Muhrrteyn [EoP Oath PDF]
Former MILED Clerk & Acting Clerk


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EoP TRC to End Abel and Kane Cold War [eoptrc-akcoldwar.tygae.org.za] to implement EoP Scientific and Cultural law [eop-scicultlaw.tygae.org.za] as international law negotiations correspondence sent to OZ Conservative, Mark Richardson, Vera Mistral et al; is published at: EoP Leg Sub: 15 Dec: EoP Re: OZ Conservative: Do women love the same way?