22 Jul: McVeigh2020 Re: Greg Johnson NB Principles; Richard Spencer: Trump WN Congame

* Greg Johnson, Counter-Currents, Richard Spencer, Alt Media.
» Added: 23 Jul: David Glosser, Stephen Miller, Rachel Maddow
* 22 Jul: McVeigh2020 Re: Greg Johnson NB Principles; Richard Spencer: Trump WN Congame
» 23 Jul: McVeigh2020 Re: MSNBC: David Glosser Re: Stephen Miller Immigration Hypocrisy
* Tygae: EoP Leg Sub: McVeigh2020, EoP v Alt Right, EoP v Richard Spencer / EoP NWO SCO: EoP NTE GM: EoP NTE GMA | EoP Axis MilNec Evac: Lotto: EoP v WiP Law, EoP v WiP  Academia, EoP v WiP Media, EoP v WiP Charity, EoP v WiP PsychEoP v WiP Peacenik / EoP v WiP Neg.

From: McVeigh 2020 Exp Comm <mcveigh2020@tygae.org.za>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 22:46:24 +0200
Subject: McVeigh2020 Re: Greg Johnson NB Principles; Richard Spencer: Trump WN Congame
To: Greg Johnson <Editor@Counter-Currents.com>, Richard Spencer <richard@richardbspencer.com>
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TO: Greg Johnson & Richard Spencer:
Re: Counter Currents: Principles are More Important than People; CNN: White Nationalist turns on Trump after racist tweets

Greg Johnson and Richard Spencer:

McVeigh2020 Re: Greg Johnson NB Principles; Richard Spencer: Trump WN Congame.

Richard Spencer: Many white nationalists will eat up this red meat that Donald Trump is throwing out there. I am not one of them. I recognize the con game that is going on. Trump gives us nothing outside of racist tweets and by racist tweets I mean tweets that are meaningless and cheap and express the kind of sentiments you might hear from your drunk uncle while he’s watching Hannity.  – CNN: White Nationalist turns on Trump after racist tweets; via Sebastian Ronin.


Greg Johnson: Typical politics is a bitter struggle between the personalities, interest groups, and parties of the Right and the Left. Sometimes the Right is dominant. Sometimes the Left is. Yet if one takes a broader view, one sees that politics drifts steadily to the Left, no matter how bitterly the Right resists. Robert Lewis Dabney brilliantly described this tendency in 1897, when he predicted the success of women’s suffrage based on the character of its opponents, the conservatives of his day.

This is because the Right shares the same basic egalitarian and universalist principles as the Left. But Rightists are just slower to embrace the ultimate consequences of these principles, because the Right is also the party of the bourgeoisie, who regard a long and comfortable life as the highest good. The bourgeois conservatives have “got theirs” and are thus morally complacent and fearful of the radical changes required by the next phase of equality’s triumphant march through the world.

But the same bourgeois value system that leads to moral complacency also leads to cowardice and compromise. So, over time, the superior moral commitment of the Left, combined with the Right’s own latent Leftist premises, ensure continued Leftward drift. Because the Right shares the Left’s principles, the Left has a systematic long-term advantage over the Right. Every Rightist’s moral convictions are a Leftist fifth column, occupying the highest seats of his government, ending every siege with surrender.

This means that if National Populists want to make long-term political gains, we need to focus more on fundamental ideas and not get distracted by ephemeral events and personalities.

[..] And if Trump is only an occasion to enter the battle of ideas, then it does not matter if he means what he says, or whether he will follow through with his proposals. Obviously, we’d like Trump to be a sincere and effective advocate for pro-white policies. But none of that is in our control. Whining and sharing “Blompf” memes won’t change anything. We do, however, have the power to defend good ideas and attack bad ones in whatever public forums are open to us, and we should be grateful for the opportunities Trump continues to present us.

I think some of the spoiled child reactions to Trump’s failures and betrayals come from people who somehow convinced themselves that Trump really was going to save America. But that was never realistic. He was one man, advocating confused civic nationalist half-measures against the whole media and political establishment. Trump was never going to save America. That was always our job. It still is.

[..] If we are going to effectively advance our ideas, we cannot get distracted by the politics of personality, including our own personal issues. We must never lose sight of our ultimate aim, which is a homeland for whites in North America. – Greg Johnson; Counter-Currents: Principles are More Important Than People.

Greg: If your article – Counter Currents: Principles are More Important than People – was a plausible deniable response to McVeigh 2020 Important is First and Cultural Law Self Rule Homelands 11 July correspondence to among others Alt Right [11 Jul: EoP – Cultural Law Self Rule Homelands – UN Resolution; 17 Jul: Trump Go-Back-2-Africa triggered by SAfrican EoP TRC McVeigh2020 campaign?], and the McVeigh 2020 response to Trump’s racist tweets [17 Jul: McVeigh2020: NAY: H. Res. 489 – Condemning President Trump’s racist comments directed at Members of Congress].

Ecology of Peace / McVeigh 2020: Important principles start with honesty.

Important is First, or it isn’t.
Honesty is First, or it isn’t Important.
Ecology of Peace Radical Honoursty Factual Reality is honesty about objective reality for sincere peaceniks / honourable warriors.
» McVeigh 2020: Exploratory Committee: Wanted: Honest Americans.

Ecology of Peace Functional Interpretation of Objective Reality Transforming the World Constraints for Sincere Peaceniks / Honourable Warriors:
Ecology of Peace Radical Honoursty Factual Reality [eop-rh-fr.tygae.org.za] and EoP Scientific and Cultural Law [eop-scicultlaw.tygae.org.za] are EoP culture’s functional group shared system of thought and action frame of orientation and object of inter-species relating devotion interpretation of reality for individuals whose object of devotion/values include: (i) honest – race, religious, gender and cultural – relationships; (ii) an ecological carrying capacity based perspective of observable factual social contract reality; and (iii) non-violent cooperative root cause problem solving.
* Objective Factual Reality: [1] Earth is not flat. [2] Resources are finite. [3] When humans breed or consume above ecological carrying capacity limits, it results in ecological overshoot, resource depletion and resource conflict. [4] Some of the socio-cultural and psycho-political consequences of overpopulation & consumption collision with declining resources include: poverty, slavery, unemployment, food shortages, food inflation, cost of living increases, urban sprawl, traffic jams, toxic waste, pollution, peak oil, peak water, peak food, peak population, species extinction, loss of biodiversity, peak resources, racial, religious, class, gender resource war conflict, militarized police, psycho-social and cultural conformity pressures on free speech, etc; inter-cultural conflict; legal, political and corporate corruption, etc. [5] The root cause of humans breeding and consuming above ecological carrying capacity limits is the ‘right to breed and consume with total disregard for ecological carrying capacity limits’ clauses of the Masonic War is Peace international law social contract.
* Sincere Peacenik / Honourable Warrior: Interpretative Reality: [6] If individuals, families, tribes, races, religions, political parties, corporations and/or nations sincerely – aka egological literacy [ego-eco-literacy.tygae.org.za] – want to (a) sustainably protect natural resources for future generations; and/or (b) reduce class, racial and/or religious local, national and international resource war conflict; and/or (c) enable honourable, transparent and humane international cooperative de-industrialization and depopulation of the planet to return to living in accordance to ecological carrying capacity limits; they should (d) cooperate [eop-cooperator.tygae.org.za] to nullify the ‘right to breed and consume with total disregard for ecological carrying capacity limits’ clauses and replace them with Ecology of Peace clauses that restricts all the worlds citizens to breed and consume below ecological carrying capacity limits; or be humanely eliminated from the planetary genepool.

EoP definition of difference between subjective and objective honesty.

EoP MILED Clerk honesty about objective [eop-rh-fr] and subjective [eop-rh-iqo] truth aka reality.
» EoP Leg Sub: 07 Oct: EoP TRC Negotiations Informed Consent Courtesy Notice to Ashley Kavanaugh.

Babylon WiP Slavery Freedumb Vote for Babylon Freedumb Slavery:

Trump gives us nothing outside of racist tweets and by racist tweets I mean tweets that are meaningless and cheap and express the kind of sentiments you might hear from your drunk uncle while he’s watching Hannity.  – CNN: White Nationalist turns on Trump after racist tweets; via Sebastian Ronin.

Babylon WiP oligarchs give GOP-DNC slaughterhouse factory farm managers ‘something’ to maintain Babylon WiP cheap labour slavery freedumb factory farm slaughterhouse oligarchy duhmockery [Obama Deception: False WiP Left Right paradigm; Stefan Molyneux: The Story of [WiP] Enslavement; Human Farming: Our Enslavement; PETA: Sunny Acre Farms].

They purchase – cheap or free labour – cooperation to accomplish their Babylon WiP goals with (a) campaign contributions money; and/or (b) deceptive strategic goal marketing: using vague terms that large groups of people can misinterpret as meaning what they think it means, when its only verbal diarhea marketing for the Babylon WiP oligarchy to maintain their slaughterhouse factory farm with the fake pretence that is a ‘democracy’.

Q: Is EoP SciCult or WiP Babylon intnl law Alt Right strategic goal master?:
“I don’t know what you mean by ‘glory,’” Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. “Of course you don’t—till I tell you. I meant ‘there’s a nice knock-down argument for you!’”
“But ‘glory’ doesn’t mean ‘a nice knock-down argument’,” Alice objected.
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”
– Through the Looking Glass, by Lewis Carroll
» EoP Leg Sub: 25 Jan: USAR Ft Bragg NC: Leaders Shrinking Lifeboat Course Activity creates biases awareness; 08 Jul: EoP Obs: Humpty Francis: The Neil Brown question is whether EoP SciCult law or WiP Babylon law should be master intnl law; that’s all; 12 Jul: EoP Re: Ian Winer: Ubiquitous Relativity, Activist defn, NYSE death, L-R Polarization; 14 Jul: EoP Re: George Webb & John O’Loughlin: Follow Yellow Cake Road; 15 Jul: Is Robert Fisk’s ‘truth’ journo-ethics master: EoP SciCult or Babylon WiP law?.

Any national or international socio-economic legal system whose legal, political, media, religious and academic elite consciously or unconsciously endorse the legislation and legal enforcement enablement of citizens procreation and consumption above ecological carrying capacity limits; is a Babylon WiP slaughterhouse factory farm; irrespective of whether the oligarchy and their factory farm – presidents and prime ministers – managers are liberals, communists, nazi’s, socialists or conservatives.

Collectively everyone – except those born into indigenous primitivist tribes – was born into, and have been living in a Babylon WiP legal system for a long time [eop-v-wip-history]. The Babylon WiP legal system does not care which race, religion or gender is at the top and/or the bottom. If you endorse the Babylon WiP Rule of Capital/Breeding Force Supremacy legal system, you have little credibility complaining that the elite are white, black or liberal or conservative; and whether they achieved their goal of becoming the Babylon slaughterhouse slavery elite, by means of exploiting Babylon WiP law to control the means of production or the means of reproduction. They abolish overt Babylon slavery, replace it with covert Babylon debt slavery. Put simply: It’s a game of bullshit the slaughterhouse cattle voting public with legal verbal diarhea, presumably a result of lack of ego literacy [ego-eco-literacy] character committed cooperator abolitionists.

“Karl Marx had it wrong. Class has, to be sure, been a major factor in history; but class itself is a derivative concept that is based on the ultimate causative power in history: sex. Marx‘s famous formulation must be revised: The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of struggles based on the division of our species into two sexes, jealousies emanating from this division, exaggerations of the differences between the sexes, misunderstandings about sexual reproductive power, and metaphors derived from sex. Together, these closely related matters constitute the most important, but largely neglected, set of motive forces in human history. Control — or the claim of control — over the means of reproduction has been even more fundamental to history than has control of the means of production.
» SQSwans: Robert McElvaine: Eve’s Seed: History and ‘Control of Reproduction’ Religion of Masculine Insecurity.

If you sincerely want a legal system that does not allow one race, class, gender or religion to achieve supremacist theft and exploitation of another groups resources; then you will sincerely cooperate with others whether they are liberals, blacks, nazi’s, communists to conceptually formulate and implement such an international law legal system.

Some of the questions used to conceptually formulate EoP SciCult law:

Does your anti breeding/consumption/deceiving Babylon WiP supremacy legal system (A) abolish Babylon WiP slaughterhouse slavery freedumb law economy [Obama Deception: False WiP Left Right paradigm; Stefan Molyneux: The Story of [WiP] Enslavement; Human Farming: Our Enslavement; PETA: Sunny Acre Farms], (B) replace Babylon WiP pop/econ growth law clauses with EoP sustainable procreation and consumption footprint below ecological carrying capacity limits clauses (C) which must be KISS: Keep it simple stupid to be enable to be easily understood by any ego literate [ego-eco-literacy] village idiot layperson, or policeman or judge; to avoid Babylon WiP academics, lawyers, etc bullshitting the public with bullshit environmentalist verbal diarhea; (D) the more KISS the EoP legal system is the cheaper it is to abide by, to amend and to enforce; and the more it raises the credibility of the justice system, as a – racial, class, gender, religious – fair and impartial low cost justice system; thereby reducing conflict between law enforcers and the public and between different racial, religious, gender groups; (E) KISS shut down the global perpetual war economy in a way that enables the people who are currently employed in the – financial, military, factory, etc – perpetual war Babylon WiP economy; to transition to a militia responsible freedom peace economy; where such economy provides them with shelter and survival self-sufficiency to enable the co-operative rebuilding of a relocalized low-tech organic agrarian sustainable future; (F) have KISS fair and impartial sentencing penalties to enable orderly and humane weeding of any and all intentional breeding/consumption/deceiving supremacist addiction cheaters from the genepool.

Ecology of Peace Scientific Law [eop-scicultlaw] refers to Procreation and Consumption below carrying capacity limits. EoP Footprint [eop-footprint] defines how procreation and consumption carrying capacity limit is measured.
» EoP Leg Sub: 16 May: LJ v LS Court Filing: Notice of Motion [PDF]: Affidavit & EoP UN Res [PDF]: EoP Scientific and Cultural Law [PDF]; EoP Footprint [PDF]

EoP Scientific and Cultural law [eop-scicultlaw] – based on EoP Footprint [eop-footprint] – is the Ecology of Peace culture’s answer to the EoP John Brown – how to get along without deceiving, overbreeding and overconsuming – Question: What is a Sustainable Procreation and Consumption footprint? EoP RH FR [eop-rh-fr] is the recommended objective reality socio-legal cultural frame of orientation process for implementing EoP SciCult law as international law.
» EoP Leg Sub: 20 Feb: New RSA Climate Case Chart Filing: LJ v FW de Klerk et al; 06 Apr: EoP Re: Brad Attenborough Climate Truth; Neil Graham Christchurch Truth.

 EoP Responsible Freedom Oaths for EoP Responsible Freedom Self Rule Homelands:

EoP oath is a promise – a form of labour or information barter exchange reciprocity [Dmitry Orlov Twilight of the Antipodes] – purchase of labour or information sharing cooperation with very clear unambiguous honest communication as to what the collective strategic goal is. If or when there is a mutual overlap agreement on strategic goal between two or more individuals, they can sign an unconditional or conditional cooperator oath, to clarify their cooperator commitment to the strategic goal.

The oath is a process to learn to practice in decision-making, communication and relating responsible freedom self government 24/7/365: If or when my ego gets in the way of me cooperating, towards our strategic goal; I will not run away or play some passive aggressive egomindfuck games. I will be my own or your Sgt Major and bitch slap my own or your fragile ego Private through the face with clear sincere verbal feedback, to help quick resolution of our misunderstanding, disagreement with you my fellow Oath co-operator; to enable us to uphold our cooperation agreement towards our shared strategic goal, through potentially difficult times. It’s a statement of: our strategic goal is our cooperative master, not our individual ego’s.

Depending on your level of interest in EoP – Cultural Law Self Rule Homelands – UN Resolution: You can sign your unconditional cooperator information exchange reciprocity responsible freedom [responsible-freedom] and/or conditional cooperator EoP Policy Statement [eop-policy-stmnt] Oath [eop-axis-oath].

If you have some feedback to help make the oath more KISS Keep it Simple Stupid clear, please feel free to provide such feedback so that the language can be further KISS simplified.

EoP information exchange reciprocity Oaths are and will be used to provide:

[A] President Trump, Speaker Pelosi with indications as to whether they should put GOP-DNC Babylon WiP differences aside; and adopt EoP definition of national security [30 Aug: Hillary Soros: Draft: DNC Consent to EoP RH FR Ethics Control of National Security Definition] and provide the world with American global responsible freedom – To secure the existence for responsible freedom and a future for responsible freedom children; implement EoP Scientific and Cultural law as international law [IG: 19-07-21_responsible-freedom; 19-07-21_prisoner-pardon] – EoP TRC to End Abel and Kane Cold War leadership; or

[B] President Trump and/or any other GOP, DNC, Green, Libertarian etc 2020 candidate/s with an indication of whether it may be worthwhile for them to give up their current Babylon WiP R-L platform to adopt McVeigh 2020 EoP TRC platform [22 Jun: LJ v LS Notice to Pres Trump and 2020 US Presidential Candidates]; or

[C] LJ v LS [lj-v-ls] EoP Axis Heads of State respondents with an indiciation whether they want to adopt McVeigh 2020 EoP platform as their national leadership platform and order their Embassy respondent to acknowledge receipt of the LJ v LS: EoP UN Resolution application [20 Jul: Upd LJ v LS Donald Trump: Confirm ‘No EoP TRC’ Deadline: 16 Sep 2019: password; 20 Jul: Upd LJ v LS CH-RU-CN-EU-BE-UN Heads of State: Confirm ‘No EoP TRC’ Deadline: 16 Sep 2019]; or

[D] McVeigh2020 with an indication whether there is sufficient support to officially launch McVeigh 2020 Exploratory Committee, to clarify McVeigh faked execution OKC bombing legal status with regard to launching McVeigh2020 campaign [30 Oct: EoP Re: 10th Circuit Court: John Roberts v Brett Kavanaugh & US v Tim McVeigh; 20 May: LJ v LS: Req for Info: George W Bush & Gray Davis: Re US v TJ McVeigh; 09 Jul: LJ v LS Req for Info: Senators Mitch McConnell & Chuck Schumer; 19 Jul: LJ v LS Notice to Seminole Tribe: Chairman: Marcellus Osceola Jr]. If individuals sign up for a McVeigh2020 Exploratory Committee, instead of signing Non Disclosure Agreements; they will be required to sign Ego Literacy [ego-eco-literacy] oaths, to enable the Exploratory Committee to accomplish allot of work with committed ego literate cooperators; who do not waste resources on fragile ego mindfuck games.

Responsible Freedom European Homeland:

If the homeland you seek for whites is for responsible freedom [responsible-freedom] white people; please see “EoP Responsible Freedom Oaths for EoP Responsible Freedom Self Rule Homelands”.

If the homeland you seek for whites is for fuck honour aka Babylon WiP whites, blaming all the consequences of your Alt Right white tribes conscious and unconscious Babylon WiP procreation, consumption and verbal diarhea relating decision-making on jews, africans, etc; then you should not vote for a McVeigh 2020 candidate; because under McVeigh2020 administration you and your fellow fuck honour whites who refuse to sign and abide by your responsible freedom [responsible-freedom] oaths, will be provided – along with fuck honour Babylon WiP Africans, Jews, Muslims – with your Free CoA Titanic Tickets back to EU, Africa, Middle East, Israel, etc [15 Jul: McVeigh2020: Free CoA Titanic tickets for WiP W/B-Americans back to EU/Africa].

You can choose to appreciate that – Free CoA Titanic Tickets back to EU, Africa, Middle East, Israel – information as information from a buck stops here [eop-rh-cult-info] honest candidate who will not waste your time and resources, but will tell you the buck stops here honest truth about what the strategic goal of his platform is, so that you can make a fully informed voting decision; or you can choose to be offended by that information.

EoP MILED Clerk does not require a formal – service by a sheriff – legal process for any request for information. An email with questions, or for a request for particular information or evidence is sufficient. All emails with a request for information – irrespective of the race, class, religion, gender of the author, or the size of their country, or whether they have zero police wo/men, or nuclear weapons – are given the benefit of the doubt that they are an honourable request for information and responded to in accordance with EoP Ego/Eco literacy [ego-eco-literacy.tygae.org.za] communication policy. No lawyers or Sheriffs or Judges required to get a buck stops here [eop-rh-cult-info.tygae.org.za] answer to any question.  EoP Responsible Freedom represents ‘walk our sincere peacenik talk’ path towards smallest government in the world. When every citizen in a nation is a responsible freedom [responsible-freedom.tygae.org.za] oath [eop-axis-oath.tygae.org.za] citizen aka volunteer citizen militia / sheriff: Masonic War is Peace factory farm slaughterhouse [Obama Deception: False WiP Left Right paradigm; Stefan Molyneux: The Story of [WiP] Enslavement; Human Farming: Our Enslavement; PETA: Sunny Acre Farms; ELS Ref] government is effectively abolished.
» EoP Leg Sub: 18 Mar: EoP Re NZ Police Req to Kiwifarms re 15 Mar Christchurch Mosque attack.

A copy of this correspondence is documented at EoP Legal Submissions [eop-leg-sub.tygae.org.za].


Lara Johnson, aka Andrea Muhrrteyn [EoP Oath PDF]
PO Box 5042, George East, 6539, RSA

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Greg Johnson, Richard Spencer:
Greg Johnson (Editor@Counter-Currents.com); Richard Spencer (richard@richardbspencer.com);


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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:08:05 +0200
Subject: McVeigh2020 Re: MSNBC: David Glosser Re: Stephen Miller Immigration Hypocrisy
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David Glosser, Stephen Miller, Rachel Maddow:
David Glosser (David.Glosser@jefferson.edu); Stephen Miller (Stephen.Miller@whitehouse.gov); Rachel Maddow (rachel@msnbc.com);
Re: MSNBC: Rachel Maddow: David Glosser: ‘Essential Moral Values’ Work Against Trump Policy Of Cruelty.

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