28 Jan: LJ Re: Re: S-WCPP & S-NA: Climate & Ecological Emergency Beliefs.

* State Attorney, Gwen Selowa, Braam Swart & Partners, Andre van Niekerk, WCPP, Masizole Mnqasela, Beverly Schafer, Alan Winde, Cameron Dugmore, Romeo Adams, National Assembly, Thandi Modise, Parliament, Guy McPherson, Pauline Schneider.
* 28 Jan: LJ Re: Re: S-WCPP & S-NA: Climate & Ecological Emergency Beliefs..
* Tygae: EoP Leg Sub: LJ v S-GMC, LJ v FW de Klerk, LJ v SA Political Parties, EoP v Guy McPherson / EoP NWO SCO: EoP NTE GM: EoP NTE GMAEoP NTE GMZA | EoP Axis MilNec Evac: Lotto: EoP v WiP Law, EoP v WiP  Academia, EoP v WiP Media, EoP v WiP Charity, EoP v WiP Peacenik / EoP v WiP Neg.

From: Lara Johnson <eop-leg-sub@tygae.org.za>
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 11:59:47 +0200
Subject: Re: S-WCPP & S-NA: Climate & Ecological Emergency Beliefs.
To: “Braam Swart and Partners: Andre van Niekerk” <Prok2@braamswart.co.za>, Winnie Barnard <winnie@braamswart.co.za>
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TO: State Attorney: Gwen Selowa / Braam Swart & Partners: Andre van Niekerk.
CC: Speaker: WC Prov Parliament: Masizole Mnqasela
CC: Speaker: National Assembly: Thandi Modise
CC: Guy McPherson & Pauline Schneider
Re: H 225/19: LJ v Speaker GMC & Four Others [PDF: lj-v-sgmc]
Ref: 28 Jan: LJ Re: BSP–AvN: S-GMC Re: H 225/19: LJ v S-GMC and Four Others.

State Attorney: Gwen Selowa:

Re: S-WCPP & S-NA: Climate & Ecological Emergency Beliefs.

If your speaker clients consider necessity or not of ‘climate and ecological emergency’ to be a fact in dispute. See also: 30 Dec: EoP A to McPherson – GHardin Climate Emergency – Paradox Question.

Clients: There is No Climate and Ecological Emergency:

If your Speaker clients do not believe there is any climate and/or ecological emergency.

State economic and ecological collapse are a result of ‘Rule of Babylon WiP Legal Culture’ policies that allow Ecological Overshoot & Economic Inequality:
Societies who engage in totalitarian agriculture, engage in Predator-Prey Growth and Collapse of Civilization/Empire cycles: Greco-Rome, Minoan, Mycenaean, Sumerians, Akkadian, Assyrian, Babylonian, Achaemenid, Seleucid, Zhou, Han, Tang, Song, Parthian, Sassanid, Umayyad, Abbasid, Mauryan, Gupta, Maya, Hittite, Harrapan and Teotihuacan. Collapses result from (1) Ecological Strain and (2) Economic Stratification and include the disappearance of between 90-99% of the populations (from famine, disease and organized violence resource wars) including their kings, Gods, calendars and other complex political and cultural institutions. Economic Stratification Collapse occurs due to unequal consumption of resources generating Elites vs Commoners. As Elites become sizable and keep growing, they consume more; their over-exploitation results in collapse of resources to the Commoners; who experience famine and collapse. Elites — due to their wealth — do not suffer the detrimental effects of environmental collapse until much later than Commoners, which allows them to continue ‘business as usual’, despite the impending catastrophe; explaining how historical collapses were allowed to occur by seemingly oblivious elites (eg Roman & Mayan cases).
» Military Gospel:11 Feb: NASA: Human and nature dynamics (HANDY): Modeling inequality and use of resources in the collapse or sustainability of societies; 20 Nov: EoP Q 4 GISD Chiefs: EoP TRC or No EoP TRC Climate Change Agenda?.

If they are ego-illiterate, they don’t care about whether their ‘climate and ecological emergency’ working hypothesis or belief – or any working hypothesis or belief – is accurate or not.

If they don’t care, aint no information or evidence you can provide them that will change their working hypothesis conclusion and/or belief. They can experience some event, that may activate their ‘ego literacy truthseeking thinking muscles’ and decide to start caring about the in/accuracy of their beliefs; and if not, they will die with their don’t care about truthseeking beliefs.

It is a waste of time and resources to provide individuals who don’t care whether their working hypothesis or belief on any issue is accurate or not.

If they are ego literate [ego-eco-literacy] or decide to become ego literate; they do care care about whether their ‘climate and ecological emergency’ working hypothesis or belief – or any working hypothesis or belief – is accurate or not.

If they care they will quickly clarify what the issue/s in dispute is/are, so that information and evidence can be compiled and presented to them focusing on helping them to make a fully informed decision on the particular fact in dispute; in a truthseeking venue that is a ego-literate give a fuck about 100% naked honesty evidentiary truthseeking venue, as opposed to a bullshit the public relations truthseeking venue..

Clients: There is a climate and ecological emergency: What are our options?:

It depends what your climate and ecological emergency speaker clients want: (a) 0ºC orderly and humane deindustrialization and depopulation; or (b) 4ºC disorderly and very violent – race, class, religious Armageddon famine, four horses of apocalypse [Zero Hedge: Biblical Locust Plague with Mega-Swarms the Size of Cities Descends on East Africa] deindustrialization and depopulation [SQ-Tyee: William Rees: Yes, the Climate Crisis May Wipe out Six Billion People.].

[A] 0ºC Orderly and Humane Deindustrialization and Depopulation:

If your speaker clients want orderly and humane deindustrialization and depopulation; then they should vote EoP TRC: EoP UN Resolution; to provide LS respondents with a EoP UN Resolution mandate. As far as I am aware, EoP UN Resolution is the only orderly and humane deindustrialization and depopulation towards 0°C above pre-industrial civilization plan.

More specifically: Ecology of Peace culture working hypothesis is that climate change is a symptom of greenhouse gas energy emissions resulting from international law enabling human procreation and consumption above ecological carrying capacity limits. Consequently EoP – Return to Steppe Aryan 0° Eden – UN Resolution plan is a Return to Steppe Aryan Eden low tech agrarian pre-industrial society plan; to (a) implement EoP Scientific and Cultural law based on EoP Footprint as international law. EoP SciCult law is a natural carbon sink sequestration degrowth law; that will require and enable (i) orderly and humane negative – human procreation / consumption exponential degrowth – energy emissions, and (ii) reforestation, soil regeneration etc natural carbon sink sequestration of carbon from the atmosphere to (iii) collectively stop and exponentially degrowth reverse procreation and consumption energy emissions and their feedback loops leading to climate change collapse.
» EoP Leg Sub: 21 Sep: Access to Env Info Req to UN 1.5°C Climate Summit ITO Aarhus Convention; 21 Sep: EoP Re: Bob Watson: I am slightly more blunt about IPCC 1.5°C than Dr Lee; 22 Sep: EoP Re: CCN: Covering – 0°C & 1.5°C; or 1.5°C Only – Climate Plans Reporting?.

[B] 4ºC disorderly and very violent deindustrialization and depopulation:

[B1] 0ºC / 4ºC Activate Mass Depopulation Warfare:

Presumably some governments may have massive global chemical and/or biological warfare [Seeker: Engineered Viruses Are the New Biological Weapons, Here’s What You Need to Know; Vaxxed TV: Vaxxed; Vaxxed II; Len Horowitz: Manmade Origins of Aids and Ebola] depopulation option plans; which would if they managed to kill a few billion people result in quicker depopulation reductions than EoP UN Resolution.

If the depopulation occurred in areas where there was quick reforestation, such reforestation would enable global emissions decline [SQ-Guardian European colonization of America’s killed so many it cooled Earth’s climate; SQ-DM: Genghis Khan the GREEN: Invader killed so many people that carbon levels plummeted], if the emissions in the rest of the world were steady or in decline.

If the depopulation occurred in areas where there was no reforestation, or the areas were quickly resettled by immigrants, preventing reforestation, then such massive depopulation would not make any significant effect on emissions.

Presumably the process would be disorderly and would probably result in the global social contract remaining a Babylon WiP social contract at the end of the process.

[B2] 4ºC Remain on Status Quo Do Nothing Plan:

All other mainstream – IPCC et al – climate change plans allow for different percentage variations reductions of population and/or consumption growth, without requiring population and/or consumption growth reduction to reduce to the point of degrowth: below ecological carrying capacity limits. For example their goal of population/consumption growth reduction may be to reduce the growth from 0.5% to 0.4%; as opposed to from 0.5 to 0%. This means they are – consciously or unconsciously – not sincere scientific plans to achieve climate emissions reductions; towards 0°C above pre-industrial civilization plan.

Their little bit of local or national reduced growth has no effect on the ongoing global exponential growth of emissions, from previous growth and feedback loops from previous growth. Their plans will have fuck all overall emissions reductions effect [Climate change: Arctic permafrost now melting at levels not expected until 2090; MMP: Climate Change: Why is it So Often “Sooner than Predicted”?]. Its not possible to achieve global climate emission reductions, without requiring deindustrialization, and all consumption and procreation to below ecological carrying capacity limits; and simultaneously implementing – reforestation, soil regeneration, alternative energy [Third Pole: Karachi’s green buses to be powered by dung; AfricaNews: Kenyan Farmers make use of biogas] etc – carbon sequestration plans.

Ultimately – remain on the status quo do nothing plan – will result in all feedback loops being passed beyond tipping points, which will activate global collective Auschwitz-Earth-oven mass depopulation deaths of billions [22 Sep: EoP Re: W Rees: Yes, the Climate Crisis May Wipe out Six Billion People]. Depending on where the first billions of deaths occur, if in areas where massive reforestation can quickly occur, then that may have a cooling effect. If the deaths occur in desert places where massive reforestation cannot quickly occur, the Auschitz-Earth-oven will get hotter.

EoP/OKC TRC Negotiations correspondence is published at EoP Leg Sub [eop-leg-sub.tygae.org.za]

Respectfully,

Lara Johnson,
EoP MILED Clerk [EoP Oath PDF]
16 Taaibos Ave, Heatherpark, George, 6529

Sent per electronic notice to:

Braam Swart and Partners: Andre van Niekerk:
Braam Swart and Partners: Andre van Niekerk (Prok2@braamswart.co.za); Winnie Barnard (winnie@braamswart.co.za);

Speaker: WCPP: Masizole Mnqasela:
Speaker: Masizole Mnqasela (masizole.mnqasela@wcpp.gov.za); Dep: Beverly Schafer (beverley.schafer@wcpp.gov.za); Shamiela Osman (shamiela.osman@wcpp.gov.za); Premier: Alan Winde (lucille.fester@westerncape.gov.za); Leader Opposition: Cameron Dugmore (cameron.dugmore@wcpp.gov.za); WCPP (info@wcpp.gov.za); Secretary to Legislature: Romeo Adams (radams@wcpp.gov.za);

Speaker: National Assembly: Thandi Modise:
National Assembly: Speaker: Thandi Modise (speaker@parliament.gov.za); Thandi Ruth Modise (framosana@parliament.gov.za); Assistant: Zodwa Ngoma (zngoma@parliament.gov.za); Parliament (info@parliament.gov.za)

Guy McPherson & Pauline Schneider:
Guy McPherson (guy.r.mcpherson@gmail.com); Pauline Schneider (paulineschneider4@gmail.com)

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