24 Dec: LJ Re HC-WCPD-RD Re: EoP Law Req for J Desai Legal Services Ombud Info

* Ruanne David, Office Judge President, Lizette Potgieter, Valerie Noah, Judge Nathan Erasmus, Faadiah Davids, Judge Siraj Desai, Foundation for Human Rights, Unfinished Business of TRC:, Ahmed Mayet, Katarzyna Zdunczyk, SACTJ, Shirley Gunn
* 24 Dec: LJ Re HC-WCPD-RD Re: EoP Law Req for J Desai Legal Services Ombud Info
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From: Lara Johnson [mailto:eop-leg-sub@tygae.org.za]
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 4:34 PM
To: ‘Chief Registrar: Ruanne David’; ‘Sec: Antoinette Marinus’
Cc: ‘Office Judge President: Lizette Potgieter’; ‘Judge S Desai: Rhoda Patel’; ‘Judge Nathan Erasmus: Sec: Faadiah Davids’; ‘Court Manager: Valerie Noah’; ‘Sec: Astrin Ernstzen’; ‘Judge Siraj Desai: Foundation for Human Rights’; ‘Unfinished Business of TRC: Ahmed Mayet’; ‘Katarzyna Zdunczyk’; ‘SACTJ: Shirley Gunn’
Subject: EoP Law Req for J Desai Legal Svc Ombud Info

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TO: Chief Registrar: Ruanne David
CC: Judge Pres J Hlope: Lizette Potgieter
CC: Judge S Desai: Rhoda Patel:
CC: Judge N Erasmus: Faadiah Davids
CC: Court Manager: Valerie Noah
CC: Judge Siraj Desai: Foundation for Human Rights

Registrar David:

EoP Law Req for J Desai Legal Services Ombudsman Info

Thread:
* 24 Dec: 15:00: HC-WCPD-RD Re: EoP Law Req for J Desai Legal Services Ombud Info: Encl: 24 Dec: 07:40: HC-WCPD-RD Re: EoP Law Req for J Desai Legal Services Ombud Info
» 24 Dec: 14:42: LJ Ntc: J Hlope Re EoP Law Req for J Desai Legal Services Ombud Info
» 24 Dec: 11:52: HC-WCPD-RD Re EoP Law Req for J Desai Legal Services Ombud Info
» 24 Dec: 11:39: LJ Re HC-WCPD-RD Re EoP Law Req for J Desai Legal Services Ombud Info
» 24 Dec: 07:41: HC-WCPD-RD Re EoP Law Req for J Desai Legal Services Ombud Info
» 23 Dec: 21-07: EoP Law Req for J Desai Legal Services Ombudsman Info

EoP law Pro Se active listening [Edwin Rutsch: Empathy aka Active Listening Circle] response.

HC-WCPD: RD: High Court Western Cape Provincial Division Registrar: Ruanne David
EoP-LJ: Ecology of Peace: Lara Johnson

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HC-WCPD: RD: I would like to disagree with your allegations in the [24 Dec: 14:42] e-mail below.

EoP-LJ: Sincere truthseeking disagreement is welcomed by an EoP law culture practioner.

Andrei Kondrashev: Is it possible to argue with Putin? Gen Bortnikov: Of course, but only if you [are sincere aka ego-literate and] have ironclad counterarguments [ego-eco-literacy: mcv20: PDF: pp.37-38/71]. – [EoP Amended: Vesti: Putin: 01.02]

Vladimir Putin: And the scale [of the talks] don’t depend on the pompousness with which any meeting is organized. It depends on sincerity and desire to start discussing the key points of bilateral relations. We’re ready for this. If the USA is also ready for this, then in this sense and in this case, successful negotiations are possible. [Vesti: Chile Unrest Shuts Down Planned APEC Summit – Putin Invites Trump to Visit Moscow Instead!]

Intentional insincere obstruction disagreement comes with heavy penalties under EoP SciCult [EoP UN Resolution: lj-v-ls: PDF pp.25-66/70] law.

If or when EoP SciCult law [EoP UN Resolution: lj-v-ls: PDF pp.25-66/70] is international law, citizens will be able to file complaints against  clerks and/or judges secretaries and/or judges obstructing sincere truthseeking cooperative resource conflict problem solving; a conviction for deception crimes of aggression [crimes-of-aggression: lj-v-ls: PDF pp.25-66/70] negligent: ego literacy communication classes [ego-eco-literacy: lj-v-ls: PDF: pp.36-37]; intentional: death penalty.

Benefits for sincere and honest women in a sincere problem solving legal society:

McVeigh 2020 [mcveigh2020]: A handshake is a very low cost way of making contracts, but is worthless in a community with lotsa liars. Gimbutas noted the stable – no population & economic consumption growth – Steppe Aryan population: that a low tech agrarian village founded in 8000 BC was still a low tech agrarian village in 4000BC. This also allowed them to sustainably farm the land, and live in peace. There are no steppe Aryan palaces, no prisons, no mental institutions, no homeless, no landless and no unemployed. No harems; they didnt even have marriage, just as the Musou still today. Among whom, rape & murder are so rare they dont have words for it. [SQSwans: Day Brown: Proto Indo-European: 23 January 2017; SQ-DS: The Mosou Matriarchy: Men Live Better where Women are in Charge.]
» McVeigh 2020: Return to Eden: EoP – End Civ – UN Resolution; EoP Leg Sub: 29 May: EoP Law Re: Designing an honesty trust sustainable society.

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HC-WCPD: RD: Please see below the words from your own e-mail to which I did respond.
[EoP LJ: 24 Dec: 11:39] “Did you separately forward my 23 Dec 2020: 21:07 to mentioned – Desai and Hlope – judges; as your email header only includes Judge Erasmus secretary: Faadiah Davids.”

You therefor did not request copy of the notification.

EoP-LJ: I did not request a copy of the notification in the particular paragraph that you quoted. I did request a copy of the notification in the paragraph following the one you quoted; which I shall quote for you.

[EoP-LJ: 24 Dec: 11:39] If you forwarded my 23 Dec 2020: 21:07 email to Judge Desai and Hlope’s secretaries; could you kindly provide a copy of such forwarding email; or alternatively confirm the date and time of the forwarding correspondence, the secretaries names, and if they consent their email addresses.

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HC-WCPD: RD:  I did not cc you in on the mail I sent to the three Judges secretaries. For your convenience however, I attach a copy of the e-mail sent in the hope that it is what you require.

EoP-LJ: Thank you. Although we had a slight negligent misunderstanding and/or lack of active reading of requested information; I confirm that I have received what I requested from you. I have yet to receive any response from Judges Hlope, Desai and Erasmus; hopefully they shall respond soon, and I won’t have to bother you and/or their secretaries again.

EoP – OKC TRC – Axis Alliance [31 Mar: EoP Upd: Sergey Lavrov: Re: EoP Axis Alliance negotiations] Honest Lives Matter [29 Jun: EoP Axis Alliance is an Honest Lives Matter culture] Negotiations correspondence is published at EoP Leg Sub [eop-leg-sub.tygae.org.za]

Respectfully,

Lara Johnson,
EoP MILED Clerk [EoP Oath PDF]
16 Taaibos Ave, Heatherpark, George, 6529

Sent per electronic notice to:

Chief Registrar: Ruanne David:
Chief Registrar: Ruanne David (RDavid@judiciary.org.za);  Sec: Antoinette Marinus (AMarinus@judiciary.org.za):

Judge Pres J Hlope: Lizette Potgieter:
Office Judge President: Lizette Potgieter (EPotgieter@judiciary.org.za)

Judge S Desai: Rhoda Patel:
Judge S Desai (RPatel@judiciary.org.za)

Judge N Erasmus: Faadiah Davids:
Judge Nathan Erasmus: Sec: Faadiah Davids (fdavids@judiciary.org.za)

Court Manager: Valerie Noah:
Court Manager: Valerie Noah (VNoah@judiciary.org.za); Sec: Astrin Ernstzen (AErnstzen@judiciary.org.za)

Siraj Desai: Foundation for Human Rights:
Siraj Desai: Foundation for Human Rights (info@fhr.org.za); Unfinished Business of TRC: Ahmed Mayet (amayet@fhr.org.za); Katarzyna Zdunczyk (kzdunczyk@fhr.org.za); SACTJ: Shirley Gunn (director@hrmc.org.za)

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