22 Feb: EoP /OKC TRC Neg’s: Tim Stuart-Buttle publishing request

* Tim Stuart-Buttle, York Univ, Rethinking Civil Society, Nathaniel Boyd,  Sara de Jong, Rudabeh Shahid, Jan Rybak, Gyda Sindre, Claire Smith, Barbara Yoxon, Leverhulme Trust, Gordon Marshall
* 22 Feb: EoP /OKC TRC Neg’s: Tim Stuart-Buttle publishing request
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From: EoP MILED Clerk <eop.miled.clerk@tygae.org.za>
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 10:23:47 +0200
Subject: EoP /OKC TRC Neg’s: Tim Stuart-Buttle publishing request
To: Timothy Stuart-Buttle <tim.stuart-buttle@york.ac.uk>
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Hi Tim

EoP /OKC TRC Neg’s: Tim Stuart-Buttle publishing request.

I received your 20 Feb correspondence [20 Feb: Tim Stuart-Buttle: Lara Johnstone].

Active Listening [Edwin Rutsch: Empathy aka Active Listening Circle: 9 min] response to enable fully informed consent confirmation of Lara Johnstone-Johnson and Timothy Stuart-Buttle messages:


TSB: I write to ask you to remove the following email exchange from your website: I did not give permission for it to be published online, and it contains highly personal information as well as data (my work email address). http://eop-leg-sub.tygae.org.za/2018/04/05-apr-tim-stuart-buttle/


I amended the publishing of the page you have concerns about [05 Apr: Tim Stuart Buttle: Re: Lara Johnstone-Johnson Dignitas Notice] from public to protected [password]. Hope that’s a reasonable temporary compromise to your request.

If the ultimate EoP / OKC TRC vote on 03 November [lj-v-ls] is No EoP/OKC TRC; then soon as Siberia Assisted Suicide logistics are negotiated, the tygae.org.za and mcveigh2020.com sites will be shut down; meaning all EoP v WiP negotiations correspondence will be removed from online.

The original email to Stuart Buttle family [21 Mar: Peter, Rachel & Timmy Stuart Buttle: Lara Johnstone-Johnson Dignitas Notice] did state “A copy of this correspondence is documented at eop-leg-sub.tygae.org.za”.

Your York univ email is published at York Univ [York: Dr Tim Stuart-Buttle Postdoctoral Research Fellow]. If you want your work email kept out of EoP / OKC TRC negotiations correspondence, and want to continue correspondence. I suggest you get another gmail or similar email account, and use that for EoP / OKC TRC negotiations correspondence that is going to be published.


TSB: Postdoctoral Research Fellow, ‘Rethinking Civil Society: History, Theory, Critique‘ Department of Politics, University of York york.academia.edu/TimStuartButtle. Recently published: Book: From Moral Theology to Moral Philosophy: Cicero and Visions of Humanity from Locke to Hume, with Oxford University Press. Articles: ‘Recognition, sociability and intolerance: A study of Archibald Campbell (1691-1756)’, Global Intellectual History (Dec. 2019). (with Heikki Haara): ‘Beyond Justice: Pufendorf and Locke on the desire for esteem’, Political Theory 47:5 (Oct. 2019).

EoP-LJ: Sounds like those Babylon WiP academics filled your head with fuck load of Babylon WiP bullshit verbal diarhea: presumably as a result of their conscious or unconscious lack of ego-eco literacy character skills. If they wanted to teach you about a just society, why didn’t they just put you on a plane to Musou country in China, where you could have learnt some valuable information about how Steppe Aryan societies sustainable just philosophy and law social contract living.

McVeigh 2020: Gimbutas noted the stable – no population & economic consumption growth – Steppe Aryan population: that a low tech agrarian village founded in 8000 BC was still a low tech agrarian village in 4000BC. This also allowed them to sustainably farm the land, and live in peace. There are no steppe Aryan palaces, no prisons, no mental institutions, no homeless, no landless and no unemployed. No harems; they didnt even have marriage, just as the Musou still today. Among whom, rape & murder are so rare they dont have words for it. – SQSwans: Day Brown: Proto Indo-European: 23 January 2017.
» McVeigh 2020: Return to Eden: EoP – End Civ – UN Resolution.

Peter Blanken: I have been in a few situations recently where people I respect and love have given me their opinion on certain matters. I have also had the dubious pleasure of listening to less-than-credible “specialists” mouth-fart about subjects they in actually did not know a lot about. ….. The greatest tragedy of mankind — or one of them — is that people needlessly hold wrong opinions in their minds. All opinions are not equal. And it is not the person we love or respect who necessarily has an opinion which really counts, at least not if they lack believability. Ray Dalio defines believability as follows: “Believable people as those who have repeatedly and successfully accomplished the thing in question — who have a strong track record with at least three successes — and have great explanations of their approach when probed”. From this he extracts another very valuable thought which many people who argue for the sake of arguing would do better to consider: “If both parties are peers, it’s appropriate to argue. But if one person is clearly more knowledgable than the other, it is preferable for the less knowledgeable person to approach the more knowledgable one as a student and for the more knowledgable one to act as a teacher”. Now, in Bridgewater’s organization they have figured this out to the most granular level, because they actually assign a believability score to each participant in a discussion, in real time. This means that when the organisation needs to make important investment decisions, they will take each person’s input and put that through the filter. This may lead to a decision being voted for by a majority, but actually rejected, because the believability score of that majority was lower than the assigned knowledge, experience or background of the minority. That’s pretty powerful stuff. ………. When two people believe opposing things, chances are that one of them is wrong. It pays to find out if that someone is you. …. holding wrong opinions in one’s head and making bad decisions based on them instead of having thoughtful disagreements is one of the greatest tragedies of mankind. ….. That quote is from Ray Dalio, the founder and Grand Poobah at Bridgewater Associates, the largest hedge fund in the world and a successful billionaire entrepreneur. Dalio likes to develop the idea of thoughtful disagreement, in which the goal is not to convince the opposite party that you are right, but simply to find out which view is true and then what to do about it.  Both parties must be motivated by a genuine fear of missing important perspectives. In such a situation it is about exploring the truth and not simply arguing. Or “winning” the argument. In reality, the winners of an argument, if there is such a thing, are those who leave the discussion having learned something. Whereas the losers are those who stubbornly cling to their thoughts, beliefs and reasoning without having given any consideration to the others’ point of view. What is interesting is that, being from a multi-cultural European background, I very frequently see how this plays out depending on the origins of the parties involved. Often, discussions get more heated with people from the south of Europe, considered more “hot-blooded”, than people from the North, more “cold-blooded”. The next time you find yourself in a discussion seemingly not leading towards agreement or resolution, consider this notion of thoughtful disagreement. Try to stand apart from the discussion. Hold you tongue and go through these 3 steps: * Listen with intent, meaning that you seek to understand the other person’s viewpoint first and foremost. * Take into consideration how believable the other person is. Find points of agreement and build on those. Determine points of disagreement and focus on clarifying them. * Stay open to the notion that if the 2 ideas are opposing, and one of them could be wrong, there is actually a possibility the person having it wrong is you. You might also consider sharing this methodology with the ”opposing” party and see if that improves the quality of the exchange. The goal should not be to bludgeon the other into accepting your views, but to leave the disagreement smarter that when you started and that this leads to improved decision making and a harmonious conclusion. – CNBC: Ray Dalio says ‘greatest tragedy of mankind’ is people clinging to wrong opinions; The Startup: How to have better discussions — the art of thoughtful disagreement; How to make better decisions: consider Believability.
» » EoP Leg Sub: 07 Feb: Notice to IA Sec of State: Re: RU Consent to EoP UN Res Denuke Definition Offer: Iowa Secretary of State: Pro Se Filing Notice: McVeigh 2020: EoP / OKC TRC Return to Steppe Aryan Eden Negotiations: Write In Candidate [PDF.pp.24]: Annexure: A6a: 06 Aug: LJ v LS CEO Req for Invest Info: Peter Blanken & Michael Burry.

EoP Re Sincerity vs Status/Esteem:

Sooner or later you find out that there are two kinds of people in the world: sincere and fake.

There are sincere: those who will honestly and sincerely tell you what they want and cooperate with you to get what they want, when you want the same thing; and not waste your time pretending they will cooperate with you; when they don’t want the same thing; and fake: those who are consciously or unconsciously financially and/or socio-psychologically profiteering of pretending to help other people get what they want; while they are covertly working to perpetuate that which they are promising to solve [eop-v-wip-stratint.tygae.org.za].

An individuals sincerity or potential sincerity has nothing to do with their race, religion, class, current ideological preference, gender or age.
» EoP Leg Sub: 24 Mar: Beyond Highbrow – Robert Lindsay: Who is the Most Intelligent Person who Ever Lived?.

Ecology of Peace definition of sincerity: ego-eco literacy [ego-eco-literacy] character [05 Nov: EoP culture Re: Character].

EoP/OKC TRC Negotiations correspondence is published at EoP Leg Sub [eop-leg-sub.tygae.org.za]


Lara Johnson,
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