28 Nov: McV20: EoP Law Voter Q Re: Voters Ballots, not Lawyers Briefs decide Elections

* Judge Stephanos Bibas, Neal Katyal, Joe Lieberman, Donald Trump, Matt Morgan, Harmeet Dhillon, Rudolph Giuliani, Giuliani Partners, Jared Kushner, Stephen Miller, Lawrence Kudlow, Press Office, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris D-CA, James Clyburn D-SC, Symone Sanders, James Carville, Rahm Emanuel, Stan McChrystal, Ron Klain, Michele Flournoy, Perkins Coie, Marc Elias, Maine Secretary of State, Matthew Dunlap, LA SoS, Kyle Ardoin, KY Secretary of State, Michael Adams, HI Office of Elections, Scott T Nago, Defense Secretary, Christopher Miller, DoD Duty Officer, US Navy JAG, John Hannink
* 28 Nov: McV20: EoP Law Voter Q Re: Voters Ballots, not Lawyers Briefs decide Elections.
» Encl: Transcript: 28 Nov: McV20: EoP FEC-EC Election Fraud Inv Offer: Re: DJT: Time Isn’t on Our Side
* Tygae: EoP Leg Sub: McVeigh 2020, EoP v DTrump, EoP v RGiuliani, EoP v Alt Right, EoP v USPR, EoP v US Congress,  EoP v US Senate, EoP v BLM, US v TJ McVeigh, LJ v LS / EoP NWO SCO: EoP NTE GMA | EoP Axis MilNec Evac: Lotto: EoP v WiP Law, EoP v WiP  Academia, EoP v WiP Media, EoP v WiP Charity, EoP v WiP Religion, EoP v WiP Peacenik / EoP v WiP Neg.

From: McVeigh 2020 Exp Comm [mailto:mcveigh2020@tygae.org.za]
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 3:23 PM
To: ‘Judge Stephanos Bibas’
Cc: ‘Neal Katyal’; ‘Joe Lieberman’; ‘Maine Secretary of State: Matthew Dunlap’; ‘LA SoS Kyle Ardoin: LA SoS Election Officer: Elections Shared Mailbox’; ‘KY Secretary of State: Michael Adams’; ‘HI Office of Elections: Scott T Nago’; ‘Defense Secretary: Christopher Miller via DoD Duty Officer’; ‘US Navy JAG: John Hannink’; ‘Legal Div Ethics Office’
Subject: EoP Law Voter Q Re: Voters Ballots, not Lawyers Briefs decide Elections.
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 3:25 PM
To: ‘Donald Trump 2020’; ‘Matt Morgan’; ‘Harmeet Dhillon’; ‘Rudolph Giuliani via Giuliani Partners’; ‘JoAnn Zafonte’; ‘Robert Costello’; ‘Jon Sale’; ‘White House: Jared Kushner’; ‘Stephen Miller’; ‘Lawrence Kudlow’; ‘Media Affairs’; ‘Press Office’; ‘Joe Biden 2020’; ‘Kamala Harris D-CA: Kamala Harris’; ‘Cortney Bright’; ‘Kamala Harris 2020’; ‘James Clyburn D-SC: Yelberton Watkins’; ‘Lindy Birch Kelly’; ‘Symone Sanders’; ‘James Carville’; ‘Rahm Emanuel’; ‘Stan McChrystal’; ‘Ron Klain’; ‘Michele Flournoy’; ‘Perkins Coie: Marc Elias’
Subject: EoP Law Voter Q Re: Voters Ballots, not Lawyers Briefs decide Elections.

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TO: Judge Stephanos Bibas
CC: Neal Katyal
CC: Joe Lieberman
Ref: 03 Nov: Filing FEC-EC: EoP voter US Presidential vote: EoP Law Electoral College vote: McVeigh: 538, Trump: 0; Biden: 0

CC: Trump Pence 2020:
CC: Biden Harris 2020:
Ref: 28 Nov: McV20: EoP FEC-EC Election Fraud Inv Offer: Re: DJT: Time Isn’t on Our Side

CC: ME SoS Matthew Dunlap; LA SoS: R Kyle Ardoin; KY SoS Michael Adams, HI Office of Elections: Scott T Nago:
Ref: 27 Nov: McV20 Ntc: ME-SoS: Ntc FEC EoP law voter US Presidential vote; 17 Nov: McV20 Ntc: LA-SoS: Ntc FEC EoP law voter US Presidential vote; 27 Nov: McV20 Ntc: KY-SoS: Ntc FEC EoP law voter US Presidential vote; 26 Nov: McV20 Ntc: HI-SoS: Ntc FEC EoP law voter US Presidential vote

CC: SecDef: Chris Miller; US Navy JAG: John Hannink:
Ref: 29 Feb: McV20 Re: OK SoS-MM: Re: Filing OK SoS: McVeigh 2020: US President Write In Candidate; 13 Feb: McVeigh2020 Reg Mail: CO Dist Crt, Crt of Appeals 10th Crct, SCOTUS, ICC Ofc Prosecutor; Oklahoma City Bombing Truth and Reconciliation: 16 May: Filing: H 111/19: LJ v LSisulu & Eight Others.PDF: para 34-38; pp.16-17/70; Affidavit & Enclosures included in McVeigh2020: Write In Candidate Filings: IA SoS Filing PDF: pp.37-100/350.

Judge Bibas

EoP Law Voter Q Re: Voters Ballots, not Lawyers Briefs decide Elections.

Summary: Do you accept EoP law [eop-v-wip-law: eop-axis-oath: LJ] voter [03 Nov: Filing FEC-EC: EoP voter US Presidential vote: EoP Law Electoral College vote: McVeigh: 538, Trump: 0; Biden: 0] Pro Se applications in your court?

If so: Please confirm via instructions to your Clerk, and I shall file such application for your EoP v WiP Law [[eop-v-wip-law] fraud elections enquiry.

If not: Transparency Notice of EoP Law Voter [03 Nov: Filing FEC-EC: EoP voter US Presidential vote: EoP Law Electoral College vote: McVeigh: 538, Trump: 0; Biden: 0] EoP v WiP Law [eop-v-wip-law] Fraudulent Election Investigation Negotiations [28 Nov: McV20: EoP FEC-EC Election Fraud Inv Offer: Re: DJT: Time Isn’t on Our Side].

“Tossing out millions of mail-in ballots would be drastic and unprecedented, disenfranchising a huge swath of the electorate and upsetting all down-ballot races too,” Bibas wrote on behalf of a panel of three judges, all of whom were appointed by Republican presidents. “Voters, not lawyers, choose the President,” the court wrote. “Ballots, not briefs, decide elections.” … “I went to school with Judge Bibas,” Katyal said. “He didn’t suffer fools gladly then. He’s very conservative, but that is the point: true conservatives see this lawsuit for what it is — a baseless attack on our democracy.”[NPR: ‘Voters, Not Lawyers, Choose The President’: Trump Team Dealt Another Blow In Court]

In response to Senator Joe Liebermans statements on Fox News [Fox: Joe Lieberman: In America we settle conflicts in court, not the streets]; EoP Law voter contacted Senator Lieberman to enquire whether he or any of his Kasowitz colleagues know of any US courts that accept EoP law Pro Se Applications, and/or whether he would make enquiries to find out whether any US courts accept EoP law Pro Se Applications; or whether he would instruct any of his assistants to do so [06 Nov: EoP Q: Re: JL: In America we settle conflicts in court, not the streets; 19 Nov: KBT-VG Re EoP Ntc GSA: EoP Law voter USA 2020 Pres Election Results; 20 Nov: EoP Re: KBT-JL Re EoP Q Re JL: In America we settle conflicts in court, not the streets]. If there is a US court that accepts EoP law Pro Se applications, such a court can be requested to help to resolve EoP v WiP law election issues in dispute; by requesting the WiP Law President and President Elect to confirm for EoP and WiP law voters, their final EoP OKC TRC or No EoP OKC TRC answers [30 Oct: Status of Biden & Trump2020 Re: EoP OKC TRC Peace: Draft: DNC/GOP 2020: EoP OKC TRC Campaign Answers; 09 Nov: EoP Re: Donald Biden Needs Cooperation from Donald Biden Voters: EoP OKC TRC QA].
» EoP Leg Sub: 27 Nov: McV20 Ntc: ME-SoS: Ntc FEC EoP law voter US Presidential vote; 17 Nov: McV20 Ntc: LA-SoS: Ntc FEC EoP law voter US Presidential vote; 27 Nov: McV20 Ntc: KY-SoS: Ntc FEC EoP law voter US Presidential vote; 26 Nov: McV20 Ntc: HI-SoS: Ntc FEC EoP law voter US Presidential vote

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[00:34:08] Mark Ellis: I guess that’s the point of saying… certainly there are countries in the world that one would question the integrity, the ability of the judicial system… [00:34:16] Julian Assange: All of them – there is no exception. Let me give you a type of proof. A military invasion will remove every judicial system. No exception. So you actually see that the administration of the law, judges, all that, comes as a result of the military domination of a particular area of life and to more efficaciously administer that military domination and more efficiently and to have less opposition from the population that are there… there is a construction of various lightly armed forms of military, we call them police, and delegated decision making, so you don’t have to have your top power figures constantly making decisions, and instead you create standardised rules and people to administer them. So when everything starts getting up near this level of the fundamental underpinnings of where legal systems emerged from, they break down. No exceptions. [IBANet: A Conversation with Julian Assange].
» EoP Leg Sub: 24 Nov: IBANet Julian Assange Conversation: EoP Re: EROEI Root Cause of Legal System Collapse; 16 Aug: EoP TRC Info: USCAAF Judge Stucky; US Fed & State Judges: DRAFT: Military Democracy EoP UN Resolution Martial Law.

Poster Krokodil, who appears to have ties to white supremacist groups Atomwaffen and The Base, wrote on October 3, 2018: “If we wanted to, hypothetically, every single one of us could go full McVeigh [Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh] and start dispatching political and economic targets today, helping build the social tension that will accelerate the collapse of the System.” [ADL: Right Embraces DEW Accelerationism]
» EoP Leg Sub: 16 Aug: EoP Law Peaceful Protestor Defn; TN: McVeigh EoP law Cons & Wiki Pedia Edit; 18 Oct: McVQ: Lincoln Project – EoP or WiP law – Taken strategic goals preference?

Active listening [Edwin Rutsch: Empathy aka Active Listening Circle] is part of EoP law [eop-v-wip-law] ego literacy [ego-eco-literacy: lj-v-ls: PDF pp.36-37/70] legal services conflict resolution communication relationship practices; to enable clear communication, that does not waste any friend, foe, neutral observer, potential ally convert or impartial or enemy prosecutor, judge, or jurors time. Put differently: If Bram Fischer [An Act of Defiance: Trailer; Bram Fischer: Trailer: Nelson Mandela et al: Gentlemen the time for talking is over. The only path to change is through the bullet and the bomb] was ego-eco literate legal services practitioner, (a) if Mandela et al had asked him for his – how can the ANC legally and nonviolently overthrow the Apartheid government – legal services advice, prior to launching MKs military insurgency anti-apartheid guerrilla war, (b) a summary of EoP lawyer Fischers Q&A advice would have been: [A] If you are EoP law revolutionaries; sign your EoP Axis Oaths [eop-axis-oaths], setup an ANC EoP Axis Oath office and ask all ANC members to sign their EoP Axis Oaths; to provide me a mandate to file EoP legal applications to Verwoerdtopia Apartheid courts [ie. similar to those that have been filed by EoP Applicant to Mandelatopia Apartheid courts: lj-v-ls: PDF pp.25-66/70| lj-v-sgmc: PDF: pp.17-54/56 | lj-v-nmn: PDF: pp.11-76/83 | tc-v-rm: 31 Aug: TN: EoP Law definitions: sincere peacenik and corruption]; to ask National Party leadership to cooperate with us to build a global EoP Axis Alliance coalition to abolish WiP international law; [B] If you are WiP law revolutionaries, ask a WiP law revolutionary lawyer; I am not a competent WiP law revolutionary lawyer.
» EoP Leg Sub: 21 Oct: LJ Re YH Re Roy Elliott-Nugget Hamilton Injury Damages Claim: Edit: Edwin Rutsch: Empathy aka Active Listening Circle.

Sergei Goncharov: KGB Group Alpha: It was anywhere in the republics, from Dushanbe to Baku. Wherever there was political trouble they sent our Group Alpha and the other KGB Special Forces group. At the time we began to realize it wasn’t our sort of job. It was a purely political business. Our iron fist was smacking the teeth out of anybody who had fallen out of favour with Moscow. It was getting out of hand.  We went to the airport to meet the ooffin with our mans body. There wasn’t a single representative from the KGB or the state. None of them were ready to face the music. The order to storm the White House was clear and straightforward. The tank brigades .. I know it doesn’t sound very nice, but the tanks would make a corridor for us by driving over the crowd. We would gain control of the first two floors of the White House. Once we were inside, we’d take Yeltsin. He reported back after 11 pm. There was still a huge crowd there. There would be massive casualties if we stormed the building. We made up our minds. Neither Yeltsin, nor Gorbachev, nor the coup leaders deserved our help. We decided then and there not to do it. …. Boris Yeltsin: I want to thank the Alpha Group. They saved Russia from a civil war from chaos and suffering. There would have been waves of arrests. Russia would have been put back half a century. We risked a new cold war with the West, if not a hot one. …. Sergei Goncharov: Literally the next day we held a meeting. Yeltsin’s man said: Let me get this straight. At any moment, any unit in the KGB can be ordered to kill the President or storm the Kremlin? How come? …. Gen Aleksandr Lebed: The commander of a tank regiment cant rule a whole country. He can only set policy with 125 mm arguments. We shouldnt have got involved in Afghanistan. The officers used to say: “We know who to flee from, but we don’t know who to follow.” And they still don’t know. But if they did, they would. [Spetsnaz: Inside The Russian SAS – Killing For The Kremlin]
» EoP Leg Sub: 26 Nov: EoP Obs: Gen Lebed: A tank Cmdr can only set policy with 125 mm dead, wounded or missed arguments.

Jonathan Powell: If either side still thinks there is still some option of winning militarily then its very hard to bring them together into a proper and meaningful negotiation. I fear when you get into that kind of situation, you may have to go through the whole cycle of blood, the whole further revolution before you can get back to the opportunity of making peace. Its a tragedy of losing a whole generation dying in such disputes before you can actually get into a solution. …. The IRA wanted a united ireland, and it didn’t get a United Ireland. What it got was the ability to pursue its aims through political means. To argue for a United Ireland, but not to get one through force or the threat of force. What the Unionists got was the Union, the abandonment of the Irish govement to the claim of Northern Ireland. They got a devolved assemly and peace and prosperity. So I don’t think its a fair critique [from the left and right] saying that we gave in to the terrorists and gave them what they wanted. I think also that you should be prepared to talk to terrorists if you want to bring about a solution in these kinds of situations. If you want to get the guns out of politics and if that is what is being demanded of you; then you have to talk to those with the guns to ask them to give up their guns. You can’t do it without talking to them. I must say I found it very difficult at the beginning anyway to talk to Sinn Fein representatives. My father had been shot up by the IRA, my brother had been on a death liste for ten years. I felt quite strongly about it. But it is necessary in a process like this to build up trust, to establish a relationship with such people if you are going to negotiate with them and persuade them to give up their guns.  The serious point in this is that you cannot think that you will persuade republicans in this case and terrorists in other cases unless you talk to them. So you have to talk to them unless you think there is a purely military solution. And the British army after a disastrous start in Northern Ireland with bloody sunday and the internment, realized quite early in the 1980s that there wasn’t going to be a military solution. [RSA: Jonathan Powell – Great Hatred, Little Room: making peace in Northern Ireland; BBC: The Martin McGuinness I Knew].

EoP – OKC TRC – Axis Alliance [31 Mar: EoP Upd: Sergey Lavrov: Re: EoP Axis Alliance negotiations] Honest Lives Matter [29 Jun: EoP Axis Alliance is an Honest Lives Matter culture] Negotiations correspondence is published at EoP Leg Sub [eop-leg-sub.tygae.org.za]

Respectfully,

Lara Johnson,
EoP MILED Clerk [EoP Oath PDF]
16 Taaibos Ave, Heatherpark, George, 6529

Sent per electronic notice to:

Stephanos Bibas:
Judge Stephanos Bibas (sbibas@law.upenn.edu)

Neal Katyal:
Neal Katyal (katyaln@law.georgetown.edu); 

Joe Lieberman:
Joe Lieberman (jlieberman@kasowitz.com)

Trump Pence 2020:
Donald Trump 2020 (pressoffice@donaldtrump.com); Matt Morgan (mattmorgan@forthepeople.com); Harmeet Dhillon (harmeet@dhillonlaw.com); Rudolph Giuliani via Giuliani Partners (info@giulianipartners.com); JoAnn Zafonte (JoAnn.Zafonte@giulianipartners.com); Robert Costello (rjc@dhclegal.com); Jon Sale (jon.sale@nelsonmullins.com); White House: Jared Kushner (jck@who.eop.gov); Stephen Miller (Stephen.Miller@who.eop.gov); Lawrence Kudlow (lawrence.a.kudlow@who.eop.gov); Media Affairs (Media_Affairs@who.eop.gov); Press Office (whopress@who.eop.gov);

 Biden Harris 2020:
Joe Biden 2020 (JoeBidenInfoSite@gmail.com); Kamala Harris D-CA: Kamala Harris (kamala_harrisSF@harris.senate.gov); Cortney Bright (Cortney_Bright@harris.senate.gov); Kamala Harris 2020 (info@kamalaharris.org); James Clyburn D-SC: Yelberton Watkins (yelberton.watkins@mail.house.gov); Lindy Birch Kelly (lindy.birch@mail.house.gov); Symone Sanders (info@symonedsanders.com); James Carville (james@carville.info); Rahm Emanuel (remanuel@centerviewpartners.com); Stan McChrystal (stan@mcchrystalgroup.com); Ron Klain (Ron.A.Klain@gmail.com); Michele Flournoy (michele.flournoy@osd.mil); Perkins Coie: Marc Elias (MElias@perkinscoie.com)

Maine Secretary of State: Matthew Dunlap; LA SoS: R Kyle Ardoin; KY Secretary of State: Michael Adams, HI Office of Elections: Scott T Nago:
Maine Secretary of State: Matthew Dunlap (sos.office@maine.gov); LA SoS Kyle Ardoin: LA SoS Election Officer: Elections Shared Mailbox (elections@sos.la.gov); KY Secretary of State: Michael Adams (michaelg.adams@ky.gov); HI Office of Elections: Scott T Nago (elections@hawaii.gov)

SecDef: Chris Miller; US Navy JAG: John Hannink:
Defense Secretary: Christopher Miller via DoD Duty Officer (DutyOfficer@mail.mil); US Navy JAG: John Hannink (JAGIR@navy.mil); Legal Div Ethics Office (ethics@navy.mil);

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