11 Feb: LJ Re: H 51/19: LJ Affid A’s to CHJ Q’s.

* Brand & van der Bergh Attorneys, Desere Barnard, Millers Inc, Arno Crous, Frode Moe, Talitha Moe, Graeme Johnstone, Hilary Johnstone, Clive Johnstone, Ann Johnstone.
* 11 Feb: LJ Re: H 51/19: LJ Affid A’s to CHJ Q’s.
* Tygae: EoP Leg Sub: LJ v GHJ, LJ v FTM, LJ v CHJ  / EoP NWO SCO: EoP NTE GMZA| EoP Axis MilNec Evac: Lotto: EoP v WiP Law, EoP v WiP  Academia, EoP v WiP Media, EoP v WiP Charity, EoP v WiP Psych, EoP v WiP Peacenik / EoP v WiP Neg.

From: Lara Johnson [mailto:eop-leg-sub@tygae.org.za]
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:09 AM
To: Millers Inc: Arno Crous; Brand & van der Bergh Attorneys: Desere Barnard: Rachel Hannies
Cc: Graeme Johnstone; Hilary Johnstone; Frode Moe; Talitha Moe
Subject: H51/19: LJ Affid A’s to CHJ Q’s
Attachment: 21-02-08_LJvGHJ_LJ-Affd-CHJ.pdf

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Sent from Internet Café:

TO: Brand & van der Bergh Attorneys: Desere Barnard
TO: Millers Inc: Arno Crous

Desere Barnard, Arno Crous:

H51/19: LJ Affid A’s to CHJ Q’s

Transparency Copy: LJ Affidavit Answers to Clive Johnstone questions [PDF: pp.10]:

EoP – OKC TRC – Axis Alliance [31 Mar: EoP Upd: Sergey Lavrov: Re: EoP Axis Alliance negotiations] Honest Lives Matter [29 Jun: EoP Axis Alliance is an Honest Lives Matter culture] Negotiations correspondence is published at EoP Leg Sub [eop-leg-sub.tygae.org.za]

Respectfully,

Lara Johnson,
EoP MILED Clerk [EoP Oath PDF]
16 Taaibos Ave, Heatherpark, George, 6529

Sent per electronic notice to:

Frode & Talitha Moe:
Frode Moe (fro.moe@online.no); Talitha Moe (lee.moe@telkomsa.net); Millers Inc: Arno Crous (arno@millers.co.za);

Graeme and Hilary Johnstone:
Graeme Johnstone (graeme.johnstone@gmail.com); Hilary Johnstone (hilary.johnstone@gmail.com); Brand & van der Bergh Attorneys: Desere Barnard: Rachel Hannies (rachel@bvdblegal.co.za);

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From: Lara Johnson [mailto:eop-leg-sub@tygae.org.za]
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 10:57 PM
To: Clive Johnstone (clanne@telkomsa.net)
Subject: LJ Affid A’s to CHJ Q’s
Attachment: 21-02-08_LJvGHJ_LJ-Affd-CHJ.pdf

Pa:

LJ Affid A’s to CHJ Q’s

Detailed Affidavit Answers to your questions [PDF: pp.10]:

Clive Johnstone Questions:

Paraphrased transcript of conversation with Clive and Ann Johnstone on 08 February 2021:

LJ: Lara Johnson; CHJ: Clive Johnstone, AEJ: Ann Elizabeth Johnstone.

CHJ: Are you available on Wednesday or Friday to go to the clinic to make an appointment to see a psychiatrist at the George Hospital.

LJ:  If you want me to see a psychiatrist, please write down what you want to discuss with the psychiatrist. If someone else is pressuring you to force me to see a psychiatrist, please ask them to put in writing why they want me to see a psychiatrist.  When I have received your or their written statements, I will provide you with my written response.

CHJ: I want you to see a psychiatrist to help you.

LJ: To help me to be or do what?

CHJ: To provide you with written – no mental disorder – protection from a psychiatrist to help you to be who you want to be.

AEJ: To get my sister and the rest of the family off our backs. To have written documentation from a psychiatrist to prove to my sister and the family who are alleging that you do have a mental disorder; that you don’t have a mental disorder.

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Summary Answer

Under South African law if you want to help someone to get written – no mental disorder – protection documentation; then the person to provide such written decision making documentation is a magistrate or judge; not a psychiatrist or psychologist. In my case, all you have to do is to provide anyone making a mental disorder allegation with Magistrate Buhr’s: No Mental Disorder, No Personality Disorder ruling; or Magistrate Torlages: No Mental Disorder legal mediation finding.

Mag Buhr: Regards to expert evidence given by Dr van der Westhuizen and Dr Rouche. I must say that they have conceded to many aspects during cross-examination by you. I did not get the impression that the State proved beyond reasonable doubt that your behaviour or that there is a personality trait that is a danger to society; but it is indicative of being distressing to the society. [04-04-05 Mag Buhr Ruling: PDF: pp.10; response to Dr Giselle Rausch’s report PDF: pp.02; and 28 Nov 2003: Cross Examination: Dr Giselle Rausch: PDF: pp.78].

Mag Torlage: Magistrate Torlage had read the entire contents of all the documents filed by Clive and Lara Johnstone in the case: 5048-15: L Johnstone v CH Johnstone; and could find nothing that could be reasonably interpreted as justifying a sincere lawful ‘mental disorder’ allegation against Lara. [PDF: pp.08/12: Joint Statement by Lara, Clive and Ann Johnstone: Re: Written Summary of Verbal Statements made in 10 May 2016 Negotiations Meeting with Magistrate Torlage in Case 5048-15: LJ v CHJ.]

For example: If Graeme and Frode provide the court with ten psychiatrists reports that all say I have a mental disorder. All I have to do is provide the court with Brad Blanton’s affidavits and request the Magistrate to request Brad to provide his skype expert witness testimony. The magistrate will be forced to listen to Brad, because Brad knows me hundreds of times better  – Brad has spent at least 200 hours of time in individual and group therapy with me; and he has had about 12 months / 4 000 hours of observation of me, when I lived in his house with him and his children – so Brad’s psychologist expert knowledge of me is hundred times more valuable for the Magistrate or Judges decision-making, than some psychiatrist who only spent an hour or two in a consultation with me.

EoP – OKC TRC – Axis Alliance [31 Mar: EoP Upd: Sergey Lavrov: Re: EoP Axis Alliance negotiations] Honest Lives Matter [29 Jun: EoP Axis Alliance is an Honest Lives Matter culture] Negotiations correspondence is published at EoP Leg Sub [eop-leg-sub.tygae.org.za]

Respectfully,

Lara Johnson,
EoP MILED Clerk [EoP Oath PDF]
16 Taaibos Ave, Heatherpark, George, 6529

Sent per electronic notice to:

Clive Johnstone:
Clive Johnstone (clanne@telkomsa.net)

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